Racism & CBB

[louisa06]

I feel so sorry for poor Shilpa in Celebrity big brother at the mo..with the Racist comments etc...
being bullied by tweedle dum, tweedle dee, & tweedle ****. they are only doing this as they are so insecure about themselves..the poor dimwits
let me know what you all think
I'm glad (H) Ian from steps piped up in the diary room.he only said what the public was thinking WELL DONE. i say

[crapmemory]

Don't you think that Shilpa and Jermaine were being racist by mocking the way the others spoke? Racism works both ways!

[crapmemory]

Just remembered, they also called Jade "white trash". Now who is being racist?

[tingirl]

Jade IS precisely what they said. I do feel sorry for Shilpa, although it doesn't help that she is overconsiderate and wants to please everyone. She really should just ignore the pathetic, ignorant girlies in there. As jermaine said, you can't reason with stupidity.

[louisa06]

Well said tingirl!

[starry eyes]

I dont watch the programme, so i cant judge, but generally,....i get so P!ssed off that EVERY time a black person is being bullied or something, they call the other people racist! Yet, if it was a white person being bullied no one gives it a second thought. Blacks and whites are equals. end of. and im just sick of people always making out the whites are racist againt blacks, but they never see it the other way round. There is also racism from blacks against white too., and i just wish people would realise that. Sorry, rant over!

[boro1986]

Come on they are Z listers desperate for any kind of tv coverage who reall cares!!!

[andy-hughes]

Starry eyes - you are quite right, and I have made my point at length in the appropriate Body And Soul thread that is running. For the record though, Shilpa, the Indian lady to whom a degree of histility is being directed, has not made it an issue of colour, or even bullying, but of respect, which is far more important and expected in Asian culture than in our own. It is this culture clash, and the ugliness with which she is being approached that is upsetting her - and she feels it is entirely a matter of respect for her as a person - and nothing what ever to do with her ethnic origin.

[tradey]

i agree with you crapmemory it does work both ways,shilpa and jermaine were calling the others and yep they did call jade white trash too,so poor shilpa doesnt like it when its happening to her what a shame

[ThisSpace]

Starry eyes, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I have watched the opening episode and one catch up episode of this Celeb BB.

What I cannot get my head around is that yesterday, Yahoo! News reported 200 complaints about racism on Big Brother. Today, that has shot up to 4000 complaints. It's as though people are sitting at their kitchen tables thinking "hmmm... .actually that was racist", as though they want to join the crowd. How ruddy stupid.

Also, what people fail to realise is that there isn't anyone saying you have to watch Big Brother. If you don't like it, or you are of the sort whose mind goes into overdrive at the slightest possibility of racist behaviour in the house, then watch something else or go and walk the dog.

Big Brother is a so called "reality show". Now we could argue all day over how normal or abnormal the chosen contestants are. The fact is, they are being watched all the time whilst they are in the house. This might all have come about even if they had a TV to watch, but I just don't believe it should be taken so seriously.

[*ALFIE*]

Well its definately not racism going on. Jade is popular for being out spoken anyway and the other two are just bitching around Shilpa as I noticed she doesn't really integrate much and has developed a real "atittude" towards everyone therefore being quoted as "Bossy" and a "Fake. "

I really have nothing against Shilpa what so ever, but in an honest view i noticed a lack of integration from her with the crew and a growing arragance. This is all making her a victim of bullying within the girls. Compare Shilpa with fun loving Narinder Kaur a few years back ...???

Shil' should chill...

[andy-hughes]

I honestly believe that the perceived arrogance that Shilpa appears to display is the result of cultural differences. I think Asian people have a very different way of expressing themselves, b oth verbally, and through their body language, and this jars with Western sensibilities, because it is perceived as a snooty look and way of speaking, when that is cedrtainly not the intention.

I
recall seeing a documentary about this very same subject, a piece of film was shown, and then discussed afterwards.

An Asian father was discussing his daughter's progress with her Head Teacher, and he said to her "No no, my daughter will not bei going into this class next year, it will not happen!" Provocative or what? Then the explanation was given - what he was saying, although obviousdly not conveying in a way which was understood was "I am very worried about my child, I do no want her to go into this class, can you help me, can we talk about this?"

See what I mean? Sometimes people's meaning is lost in interperetation - and I believe this is the root of the CBB problems - for both sides.

Hopefully everyone will climb over it, and understand each other a little better as time goes on.

[Le Chat]

OK, Ian said something in the safety of the diary room ...hey that's good of him! None of the men have stuck up for Shilpa ...what a gang of wimps! Cleo sits beautifully on the fence agreeing with everyone. They are gutless with no backbone!

[aurelia]

I don't think it's racist - but it is bullying and like Iain said I have been on the wrong side of bullying. Bullying is unpleasant but Shilpa and Jermaine were doing bullying and bitching of their own - with the white trash and /shilpa making fun of Jo's accent - going on - you said whale I thought you said waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

[aurelia]

Forgot to say - I don't thin much of Dirk - who supposedly fances the pants of of Shilpa - what a knight in shining armour - isn't sticking up for his lady - gutless wonder

[scruffscat]

If shilpa doesnt like it,why doesnt she go? no-one is making her stay there are they?

[*ALFIE*]

I simply think shilpa struggles to fit in hence the abuse,but what i can say that she is an educated lady faced with uneducated gals.

If Shilpa was could fit in as Narinder did a few years ago, no one could even touch her...

[blink_babe13]

tingirl: Jade might be "trash" but why exactly does skin color have to come into it at all?!

[jean88]

At the end of the day racism or not racism, bullying alone is just wrong. Ganging up on someone and name calling, remember, we don't get to see all's going on, even Ian was disturbed with what he saw and heard.
Cleo was upset over the bulling too and Carole feared for Silpa's well-being with Jade. Jade had already forced 3 of the housemates to walk, surely, she's not the easiest person to get on with, she picks argument all time, like she thrives on it.
A lot of things in there they have said could sound very racially offensive that's why it had lead to so many complaints globally.
It doesn't look good for britain, thanks for Jade and co.