Fake Prince Andrew Photo

[Gingerbaker]

Could it be true that the photo of Prince Andrew with the young lady (forget her name) could be fake. Since I heard about it I studied the photo and his left hand around her waist looks a bit iffy in terms of indenting and creasing. What do you think?

[ToraToraTora]

She was not raped, as far as PA is concerned she consented. No doubt external coercion took place it was poor judgement. I'm no fan of PA but lets get it right he is guilty of poor judgement poor choices of acquaintances. He had poor awareness of what was going on then later told ridiculous porkies to dig a deeper hole.

[Untitled]

a person who is being trafficked cannot consent to sex by definition

[naomi24]

I wouldn't agree on that, Douglas - she wasn't raped.

[Untitled]

do we really think she was in a position to say no… or that she happened to consent to sex with andrew while she was being trafficked for sex… would people really be so desperate to defend him if he didn’t have royal blood in his veins? i doubt it. If he was just a wealthy man with a taste for young sex slaves then he would have been prosecuted like his procurers were.

[naomi24]

Prince Andrew is guilty of arrogance, idiocy and poor judgement - nothing more.

[ToraToraTora]

No one is defending PA, the case pivots on whether he knew she was being coerced. If he did not it can only be rape if she does not consent.

[Untitled]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking

she was a sex slave

[Untitled]

slaves cannot consent toratoratora… and of course he knew lol.

[naomi24]

Untitled, you really are talking nonsense. Read my post at 09:36 Wed 19th Oct. Yes, she was in a position to say no - but she didn't. She had sex with him on three separate occasions in three separate locations.

[Untitled]

k, i read it. can’t see anything to indicate she wasn’t trafficked.

[naomi24]

She wasn't bundled up and kidnapped. She was working at a swish spa resort ministering to the wealthy and was offered another job by a wealthy client - which she accepted. Given the title of that job, I don't think there can be any doubt that she knew exactly what it involved.

[Untitled]

your link says that she ran away from home due to sexual abuse and became homeless before taking the job at trump’s resort… she was charmed by maxwell and groomed and abused by epstein and then passed around his associates.

article doesn’t go into more detail but we know from other sources about the methods epstein used to control and dominate his victims… she was being trafficked by him and was frequently “shared” with his associates… all of those who had sex with her in these circumstances are rapists.

[Untitled]

not all sex trafficking victims are “bundled up and kidnapped” naomi… more often abusers take advantage of people who are already vulnerable and neglected and get them under their thumb.

[naomi24]

Did you not read the bit that said Maxwell offered her a job as a 'travelling masseuse for an older gentleman' - or did you just conveniently skip that?

[Untitled]

of course i read it. Did you ignore the part where she’d been raped as a child and later at 14? she was obviously vulnerable and that’s why maxwell targeted her

[douglas9401]

"No one is defending PA,"

One begs to differ.

[Untitled]

do you think she was making those other ones up too or is it just the prince?

[Redhelen72]

/Maxwell offered her a job as a 'travelling masseuse for an older gentleman'/

See alarm bells would ring for me there - no qualifications as a masseuse why was a rich man offering me such a skilled job?

[Untitled]

well done you redhelen… i am sure we’re all very impressed by how much better you are than 17 year old virginia giuffre :/

[naomi24]

I didn't ignore any of it, untitled.