Installing 2year old boiler

[evedawn]

Can we install a 2 year old boiler and still have the engineer notify gas safe etc... To make it all hunky Dorey legal. I ask as we are selling our house, had said boiler installed 19 months ago but has safe we're never notified. Hence this one tiny thing is holding up sale dreadfully. We want to: remove boiler from
Wall , then get qualified engineer to REINSTALL same boiler but this time immediately notify gas safe etc ...

[EDDIE51]

Surely it only needs a qualified gas fitter to check it is correctly installed and safe and issue the safety certificate. If the boiler had been there 5 years for example it would still need a safety certificate. They only last a year at a time.

[evedawn]

Yup Eddie - you'd think it would be that simple but no we have had two certs from independent gas registered co!!! This boiler issue has taken on a life of its own! We have done the gas safety certs / offered indemnity insurance you name it!!! I am beginning to despair!!!

[evedawn]

Also Eddie the boiler was installed 19 months ago by gas safe registered engineer! I phoned gas safe to check. But he never notified gas safe at the time it was done (some sort of oine registration he should have let gas safe know at the time)

[evedawn]

^^^^ online registration to tell gas safe it was done ^^^

[The Builder]

This is getting ridiculous, Eve. I don't know what the other side expect you to do. Obviously (as is often the case) their solicitor doesn't understand the regulations.
It should certainly be possible install a two year old boiler, assuming it's a condensing boiler, which I'm sure it must be.

I hope Buildersmate sees this. He should be able to help.

[Zacs-Master]

If I were you I'd call the solicitors bluff and threaten to withdraw your house from sale. I know that's easy for me to say but I think the threat of loosing comission may make them see the light.

[evedawn]

Yes the builder this is ridiculous! You know from a prev port how long thus has been going on now. Solicitors notified buyers lender (bank) who notified surveyors who now want cert! For effs sake! Yes Zac have been tempted to pull out but worried if we do they may call our bluff and house has to go back on market etc.

[evedawn]

Yes builder it's a combi condensing boiler. We simply want to take said boiler off the wall and immediately have SAME boiler reinstalled and notify gas safe rtc

[EDDIE51]

Have you got a gas engineer to come and look at it ?
I am thinking an engineer with a bit of common sense would just check it and sign it off as installed and do the online registration. Just taking it off the wall and putting it straight back on is ridiculous. No one could possibly know if he just signed it off as newly installed. For the engineer it would be money for nothing , an installation fee just to sign it off on line.

[evedawn]

Well weve had 2 co come out and issue gas safe certs so therefore it must be safe! Have not asked any of them to sign it off as kinda thinking that's risk (albeit a tiny risk) them losing their licence? IF (if if )we got a co who would agree to sign it off would they need to put the sign off date (eg Monday 17.9.12) or the orig install date (eg feb 2011) . In other words do they pretend to be the original installers or pretend to reinstall?

[EDDIE51]

If I was the gas fitter I would just sign it off as of the current date.
I can't see the risk, you could for example just have had the boiler sitting in your house uninstalled for 2 years and are installing it now. Boilers must sit as stock on the shelf in a warehouse for months at least some newly installed boilers almost certainly actually manufactured 2 years or more ago.
Have you actually asked a gas fitter if they will just sign it off as installed after they have done the safety check ? I would do it no problem if I was a gas fitter.
Apart from that I still can't see why a safety certificate is not acceptable for the sale to go ahead.

[evedawn]

No Eddie hadn't asked but incidentally the buyer is now going to try get a has engineer friend of hers to do just that so Heres hoping he agrees! On the topic if why a gas safety cert isn't good enough your guess us as you'd as mine! Everyone we've asked have said the same thing! After all we cannot be the only sellers in uk who didn't notify gas safe at installation!!!!!