Assault of an Officer

[spendloven]

Hello,
My Brother (19 years) is due in Court this Friday for assulting 2 Police Officers - his story is that they tried to arrest him without reason and so he fought back resulting in hospitalisation. And he is being tried for Credit Card Fraud. Just wondering if anyone would know what sentance he would receive? He has a baby on the way and he just wanted to know how much of his child's life he's going to miss.

[spendloven]

Tetjam
He's a good kid but has some troubles, mixing in with the wrong crowd, drinking etc like the 38% rest of the teenager world. I know he will get time but i think 10 years is a bit extreme. He will be a great dad he just has to grew up abit.

[lajohn]

Maybe if officers get assaulted more often they would do a better job of curbing crimes. I think your brother should form a gang, and they let loose on all officers in sight.

[spendloven]

Apprantly he and some of his mate for hanging around a local park at night. Proberly with alochol which is suitable grounds for police intervention. Lots fo teens drinking in a public place. I'm guessing words where said in which the police felt they needed to try and arrest my borther. Then of course you know the story he fought back.

[jake-the-peg]

Who was hospitalised a police officer or him?

What has he been charged with? Assault with intent to resist arrest? That's anything up to 2 years.

GBH with intent has a maximum of life!

Don't know about the credit card fraud not really enough detail there

[shutts763]

lajohn, you would have us curbing crime by committing another crime would you, it is people like you with stupid comments like that who are dragging this country down!

[spendloven]

Right Thank you to everyone so far.

One of the police officers was sent to hospital. I don't know what he was arrested for after he assulted them.
With the fraud he stole my fathers credit card and spent �5000. My dad will prosocute.

[ethandron]

So he put a policeman in hospital, he stole �5,000 from his father and you think he is a 'good kid' and will make a great dad.
What constitutes a 'bad kid' in your eyes?

Your brother fully deserves a long spell in prison.

[stonekicker]

as a psychiatric nurse who regularly gets assaulted in the course of my work - i have some understanding of how that police officer, their family and the public must feel about how you described the incident. nobody deserves to be assaulted in their line of duty/work and it is little ******* like your brother that give the rest of the teenage population a bad name. he isn't a bad person? how would you feel if some random 19 year old assaulted you and out you in hospital? i hope they prosecute him to the full extent of the law (but i bet they won't - which is why people behave like your brother) and he meets the bigger fish in a smaller pond that may just put him in his place as he plainly hasn't learnt anything in the 19 years he's been around so far...you and your family must be so proud!

[randyraven]

Sounds the type who would carry a knife. So I doubt if he will have to live anyway.

[spendloven]

I thought this was a place of answers to my questions not a chance to get all agitated at the world and take it out on the few people that have made mistakes. I don't think one of your lives have gone trouble free so don't take all your aggression out on me or my family. Yes he's done wrong and I accept that. Yes he's gone with the wrong people.
He understands what he has done wrong and he accepts the concequences, he knows that he has to take time.
So leave him alone, stick to the point and if you don't have a decent answer then leave this thread alone.

[code1]

Welcome to the World or AB !.

Like a pub fight on a Friday night or a street brawl on Saturday, you will see that once somebody on here puts you down, then everyone is ready to stick the boot in.

Rule One : You will NEVER beat the Police. No matter how hard or big you are, they WILL always win.

Rule Two : The courts will ALWAYS side with the Police, so ALWAYS put your hands up quickly and plead guilty if you are guilty.

Rule Three : Stealing of your family is a big NO NO, and despite the fighting with the Police, your brother needs to be punished for that crime, and in time, hopefully pay back EVERY penny.

We have all made mistakes - Accept that fact, accept the punishment like a man, and move on.

Thanks and good luck x

[flip_flop]

It always makes me wryly smile when people refer to criminal activties as 'mistakes' - it kind of implies that there was no intent and the person wouldn't normally commit the crime, or in this case crimes, for which they are being charged.

Did Huntley make a mistake?
What about Shipman?
Or Payne?
Or Neilson?

Yer, OK, I accept you can't compare the crimes in this thread with those of the murdering b4stards above, but you get the point.

Your brother hasn't made 'mistakes' - he has committed an act of fraud and an act of violence, and these are just the acts he has been caught for.

Pity the child.

[code1]

Oh yes I am in total agreement, but In Huntlys case the school made a mistake. (No proper CRB).

In Shipmans case the medical council made a mistake.(Too many visited healthy people dying)

In Fred and Rose Wests case the courts and the Police made mistakes.(Convicted of assult and suspected of abduction but let off)

Don't get me wrong, there are mistakes and there are MISTAKES.

In my eyes, if you fight the Police then you go straght to jail, you steal off anyone then the same applies.

Perhaps we should change mistake to error of judgement maybe ?

[jake-the-peg]

Sorry spendloven. - You'll probably not read this now but anyway.

There's a really nasty tendency for the a certain group of people to come and hurl insults on this topic.

I guess in earlier times these were the same crew who came to gawp at public executions.

Personally I try to just be as factual as possible - I'm afraid without knowing what he's charged with there's just not enough information.

If he's at a magistrates court there's a limit of 6 months but magistrates can send to the crown court for a longer sentence if they think it's warranted

Obtaining by deception is recommended as a community penalty in the magistrates book

As for the assault as I say it depends on the charge - and that depends on the extent of the injury. Hospitaliseed could mean he went to hospital for an X ray which turned out to be nothing or could mean he required life saving surgery.

In any case even the lesser charge of assault on a Police officer is a recommended custodial sentence.

[code1]

At last jake-the-peg some good old common sense !.

Have a good day.

[whiffey]

It sounds like your brother will do some time, but he is young enough such that hopefully it will turn his life around when he comes out, good luck to him, 19 is no age at all.

As to Tetjam, wishing to see an execution, read about this one, you may have enjoyed it.

http://eotd.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/9-january -1923-edith-thompson-and-frederick-bywaters/

It haunted the executioner John Ellis for the rest of his life. He finally committed suicide.