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anotheoldgit | 17:38 Thu 14th Jan 2010 | News
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http://www.dailymail....wife-94-homeless.html

There is constant criticism of the Daily Mail by some on this site, they say they can't understand why anyone reads the newspaper.

Well I give one good reason why they do, and it is this:

Without the Mail, we would stand little chance of finding out about the disgusting treatment that this country hands out to it's pensioners, this case regarding this WW2 hero is a typical example.

We can hand over money as if it's gone out of date to individuals who have never (or are never likely to) lift a finger and and give a little back.

These Daily Mail haters, who with their Guardians under their arms, will give their full support to the flotsam and jetsam of our society, while burying their heads in the sand, hoping that sad stories such as these, will never become widespread news.
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I get the Daily Mail every day and enjoy reading it it has good feature articles quizzes and of course the crossword. I also collect the voucher offers and have had many good items, plants etc sent to me. All newspapers sensationalise and exaggerate stories, we don't have to believe everything we read. The Daily Mail is not afraid to print articles which others shy away from. 50p well spent
why do you imagine Guardian readers want to suppress stories like this?
Um, actually several of the Mail's critics on AB have never said they read the guardian.

By the way, you may want to take a look at this link:

http://thedailymailon...roject.wordpress.com/

It's a blog that follows all the things that the Mail say are good/bad for cancer.
Gotta say, though, AOG, you do have a point. Searching through Google News, it only seems to be the Mail and the Exmouth journal that have covered this story.

Not sure that's redeemed the Mail in my eyes though. It still doesn't allay their sensationalism or the sloppy journalism regularly found in their pages (plenty of blogs have been set up following this...) it could be that the couple chose to contact the Mail and didn't the other papers - or a Mail journalist came across it before others did.
my guess it was a Mail scoop, Kromovaracun. Papers like that often pay for news tips, so someone in the West Country (or maybe the family themselves) will have heard about it and notified them. Then the Exmouth paper followed it up. Tomorrow it may make other papers; or the other papers may have more up-to-date stories of their own and not enough room for following up day-old stories from the Mail. That's a fairly standard way of getting news into print.

The tipster might equally have called the Telegraph or the Express, other papers with a taste for publishing stories that might embarrass the government and civil servants generally. Under a Tory government you might be better tipping off the Mirror or the Guardian.
Some of we "Guardian readers" just read it because we enjoy ...

the fashion features
the art
the entertaining journalisn
the crossword
the fact that it's continental size, not broadsheet
the poker column
the fact that they have all the best journalists

And some of us who are lucky enough to earn a little bit more than we really need (or deserve), do try to do our bit every month for those people who are less fortunate (but frequently more deserving), than we are.

We don't all bury our heads in the sand, and we are not all baddies.

Don't be too mean to us.

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Best Journalists? Really?

You've got that hateful woman Polly Toynbee (although I s'pose she's a columnist as oppsed to a journalist).
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joggerjayne

You can do the Guardian crossword???

I take my hat off to you. I can just about handle on in the Daily Telegraph, but find the Guardian's impossible.

Re: The Daily Mail...it has it's strengths (when it wants to campaign on an issue, it is focussed and relentless). However, in my opinion, it's weaknesses outweigh it's strengths. There have been a few occasions in the past year when it's badly misjudged the public mood, and come across a little curmudgeonly'.
Actually, I think the worst thing about the Daily Mail is the way that it heavily editorializes it's reporting.

One of the reasons I read the Independent is because it delivers news in a pretty unbiased fashion and leaves me to make up my own mind about how I should feel.

The Daily Mail however, doesn't do this. It basically presents a story and then tells their readers 'this is what you should think'.

Try this - look at a Daily Mail headline and speak it out. Nearly every time you will put an imaginary exclamation mark at the end...

...unless it's one of those stories where they do that Daily Mail cliche:

"IS THIS THE MOST EVIL MOTHER IN BRITAIN?"

"DOES THIS PROVE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A BIG HOAX?"

"NOW WILL THE BBC SACK JONATHAN ROSS?"

etc...
" I read the Independent is because it delivers news in a pretty unbiased fashion and leaves me to make up my own mind about how I should feel. "

I found the Independent to basically have an undertone of THE WORLD IS GOING TO END TOMORROW ARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH in its news and a very snotty 'we're-better-than-the-red-tops' kind of feeling in its opinion pieces...

Horses for courses I guess.
I agree. The Independent has excellent features writers but it's more of a viewspaper than a newspaper. Like the Daily Mail in that respect.
If you all stop being limp-wristed lefties for a bit, you can look at this pensioner story another way.

They've had their entire lives to work hard and save for their old age. If they wanted live in comfort as pensioners, they could have saved harder in their working life, stayed in education longer to increase their earning potential and take difficult choices in their professional lives - moving jobs where necessary to climb the earnings ladder or working harder to achieve promotions.

Instead, many of them make hay while the sun shines, they turn their back on education because they don't fancy it, and they show a lazy lack of ambition at work, sticking around in comfortable but lower paying jobs because they dislike change and want an easy life. They then expect the tax-payer (hard-working families) to keep them in comfort once they give up work.

They're already the lucky ones - the genetic lottery has allowed them to live to pensionable age. They now want to win the financial lottery too. That's some bare-faced cheek.
so you think he should have worked harder, Sweep, flying sorties 24/7 all through the war, then got shot down and killed, thereby saving decent hard-working families who managed to avoid conscription the bother of paying his pension? Right.
Incidentally, it looks as though the Independent is about to be taken over by a Russian and have the columnist Rod Liddle put in charge as editor.

This Liddle: "The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community."

That sounds aimed more at the BNP voter than at independent thinkers. Don't know how long you'll want to stick with him, sp1814.
jno

I actually heard rumours that the Independent was about to go bust. I'd rather it be taken over than go under completely. As to the politics of the new owner...I'll just have to wait and see how it affects the editorial content of the paper. Anyway - I've already prepared myself by downloading the Guardian app for my iPhone. It updates every morning with everything in the paper, plus archived articles by David Mitchell.

It's not a great substitute, but
you might be able to access this, sp1814

http://www.guardian.c...ddle-edit-independent
Sweep, you seem to have overlooked the fact that in their day there was no further education for anyone but the wealthy, and hence very little choice of career or advancement. Children left school at 14 and did whatever they could to earn a living. You, in actual fact, are the lucky one.

I really wish we looked after our elderly people properly.
sp1814 ...

I can only do The Guardian crossword because that is the paper that I buy, and I understand how most of the compilers think.

But some of them ... (like Araucaria) ... no idea ... "whoosh" over my head ...

... usually don't bother trying it if it's one of Araucaria's.

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