I Thought They Were Bright At Oxford?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-65714821

[choux]

The art of debate: to state your view in direct opposition to the motion. Politely, of course. Do you think it could catch on?

[youngmafbog]

I suspect they majority would welcome open debate. It is, as usual, the vocal minority who are not beyond using bullying and intimidating tactics to get their own way.

The problem is not the students but those that running Oxford not having a pair and standing up to the bullies.

[drmorgans]

"Not having a pair" or maybe not wanting a pair is part of the problem.

[youngmafbog]

An interesting take on it here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12137635/BRENDAN-ONEILL-revolution-against-wokery-Oxford-University-campuses-begun.html

[Zacs-Master]

Bigotry should never get in the way of sensible debate.

[youngmafbog]

@drmorgans, for the current trend maybe, but that is all it is for many of these people. They are 'professional' agitators and anarchists who will jump on any band wagon.

[drmorgans]

The professionally offended have been around for a while though, look at Beardy Man, supported every lefty issue going.

[ToraToraTora]

"To them, I was a leper — a political leper. Someone who had committed the cardinal sin of dissenting from their politically correct ideology. " - yep the new fascism, disagree with what we tell you and you will be punished. They are not shipping us to the gas chambers, .......yet!

[choux]

tbph, TTT I couldn't be asked to attend that debate. Each to their own.

[youngmafbog]

Very true drmorgans.

Except now they have the extra 'power' of social media which often distorts things.

[choux]

I can't joke about, nor take in vain "gas chambers".

[youngmafbog]

Neither could I Choux, but why should people be allowed to intimidate those willing to debate it. Or even worse loose their jobs or be cancelled?

[youngmafbog]

OK choux, re-education centres or Gulags better?

[ToraToraTora]

choux://I can't joke about, nor take in vain "gas chambers".// - the defenders of the new fascism often say that it can't be fascism because their opponents are not being murdered. I say it is because there are punishments for not having the correct view. That is fascism, pure and simple.

[Atheist]

From the link.
"Amiad Haran Diman, president of the university's LGBTQ+ Society, said they had received death threats in the post after speaking out against Prof Stock's invitation to the event.

"We have received thousands of comments online. Some of them very homophobic, very transphobic, hateful, threatening," they said. "

All sides are at it, unfortunately. The initiator of this thread is happy to sling insults at unspecified groups they hate, but hates others to do it to their group.

[youngmafbog]

I dont think the initiator of the thread has issued any threats.

Any you know very well the current 'Trans' lobby are the problem here. Intolerant and intimidating and quite happy to hound someone unfairly out of their job or position if they dare challenge their mantra. If they are now being targeted then they have bought it on themselves, they started it.

Why cant they go to the debate and, well debate it rather than stopping people from listening to opinions other than theirs?

[drmorgans]

No answer, came the reply.

[douglas9401]

Seems that the 'questioning' faction in that glorious rainbow alliance is a very narrow, narrow-minded even, segment of Kumbayaism.

If they want a one-sided chatfest let them do it in the back room of The Gay Cavalier where they can whip themselves into a cancelling frenzy and not bother the open-minded with their bigotry and selfishness.

[Old_Geezer]

Students. Many take the opportunity to get involved in ridiculous behaviour while they are off the parental lead, and don't yet have to form mature opinions nor act reasonably. They know they may never get the chance again.

[naomi24]

Pathetic people. Proof positive that academic ability is no indication of common sense.