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16 yr old son announced yesterday out of the blue that he wants to become vegetarian. Thought he wake up and change his mind but no. Hubby would rather scoop his own eyeballs out with a spoon than give up meat and I really don't want to cook two different meals every night, so does anyone have any filling hearty vegetarian recipes that would suit both a hardworking hubby and a growing teenager??
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“Cutting something from your diet but maintaining an overall healthy eating regime is not an eating disorder.”
If smowball’s son simply stops eating meat on a whim (which he seems intent on doing) he will not be maintaining an overall healthy eating regime. Some other radical adjustments would be necessary to gain the supplements provided by meat that the vegetables normally eaten as part of an omnivorous diet cannot provide. He will begin to suffer deficiencies that would negatively impact on his health. I don’t know about his emotions (though becoming ill may not do much for them) but the deficiencies would eventually effect his ability to properly function.
Omnivorous humans can’t simply stop eating meat without making some other adjustments. There is no indication that smowball’s son has thought through the consequences of his actions and the changes he must make to accommodate them. He’s simply going to stop eating meat and if he does the resultant problems will be the result of disorderly eating – aka an eating disorder. The 500m Indians referred to have obviously made the necessary adjustments. But we’re not talking about them; we’re talking of a 16 year old boy who has simply and suddenly decided he doesn’t want to eat meat.
I’ll say no more because my one throw away line has derailed the question for which I apologise. But my sentiments are sincerely held and well meant.
If smowball’s son simply stops eating meat on a whim (which he seems intent on doing) he will not be maintaining an overall healthy eating regime. Some other radical adjustments would be necessary to gain the supplements provided by meat that the vegetables normally eaten as part of an omnivorous diet cannot provide. He will begin to suffer deficiencies that would negatively impact on his health. I don’t know about his emotions (though becoming ill may not do much for them) but the deficiencies would eventually effect his ability to properly function.
Omnivorous humans can’t simply stop eating meat without making some other adjustments. There is no indication that smowball’s son has thought through the consequences of his actions and the changes he must make to accommodate them. He’s simply going to stop eating meat and if he does the resultant problems will be the result of disorderly eating – aka an eating disorder. The 500m Indians referred to have obviously made the necessary adjustments. But we’re not talking about them; we’re talking of a 16 year old boy who has simply and suddenly decided he doesn’t want to eat meat.
I’ll say no more because my one throw away line has derailed the question for which I apologise. But my sentiments are sincerely held and well meant.
I said I’d retire but I don’t really like to be told I’m talking rubbish with no supporting argument. There’s been nothing said (apart from jomifl’s useful contribution) about the potential problems with simply giving up meat and my contention should not really be dismissed out of hand.
I’m not saying that vegetarianism is an eating disorder. As I readily accepted, 500m Indians follow it with no problems. I’m saying that for smowball’s son to declare “I’m not eating meat” without making any other adjustments is. If he makes no other adjustments to his diet (which is not indicated) he will suffer problems. That is not arguable, it is a fact. My earlier suggestions of “cook roast beef and two veg but just give him the two veg” was meant to illustrate that. It simply won’t work.
Jomifl’s answer portrays just one of the potential pitfalls and your following question is one (among many) that smowball’s son must investigate and address. You may not like the term “eating disorder” but in this case I think it is appropriate. I will accept that “announcing he wants to become a vegetarian” is perhaps a little stronger than simply saying “I’m not eating meat any more”. But it has to be taken in context. Teenage children make all sorts of rash decisions, some to do with eating and many of which are badly founded. They have to learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately if smowball’s son makes this mistake he will suffer illness as a result and that’s is not really desirable, I’m sure you’ll agree. So whilst I may accept I might not have grasped the context correctly please, before you simply dismiss it as “rubbish”, think it through.
I’m not saying that vegetarianism is an eating disorder. As I readily accepted, 500m Indians follow it with no problems. I’m saying that for smowball’s son to declare “I’m not eating meat” without making any other adjustments is. If he makes no other adjustments to his diet (which is not indicated) he will suffer problems. That is not arguable, it is a fact. My earlier suggestions of “cook roast beef and two veg but just give him the two veg” was meant to illustrate that. It simply won’t work.
Jomifl’s answer portrays just one of the potential pitfalls and your following question is one (among many) that smowball’s son must investigate and address. You may not like the term “eating disorder” but in this case I think it is appropriate. I will accept that “announcing he wants to become a vegetarian” is perhaps a little stronger than simply saying “I’m not eating meat any more”. But it has to be taken in context. Teenage children make all sorts of rash decisions, some to do with eating and many of which are badly founded. They have to learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately if smowball’s son makes this mistake he will suffer illness as a result and that’s is not really desirable, I’m sure you’ll agree. So whilst I may accept I might not have grasped the context correctly please, before you simply dismiss it as “rubbish”, think it through.
So where do you obtain your protein and amino acids? Did you make adjustments to your diet at all?
I have a friend who became a vegetarian some fifty years ago (long before it was fashionable) at the age of seventeen. It took him almost a year to adjust his diet to become completely meat free (by which I mean a little more than simply not having roast beef with his two veg). I'm glad you did somewhat better but even vegetarian experts will counsel against simply ceasing to eat meat. It's not a good idea, especially for youngsters. I think I've said all I can. I've tried to be constructive and not derogatory so I'm out.
I have a friend who became a vegetarian some fifty years ago (long before it was fashionable) at the age of seventeen. It took him almost a year to adjust his diet to become completely meat free (by which I mean a little more than simply not having roast beef with his two veg). I'm glad you did somewhat better but even vegetarian experts will counsel against simply ceasing to eat meat. It's not a good idea, especially for youngsters. I think I've said all I can. I've tried to be constructive and not derogatory so I'm out.
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