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Nothing has changed?
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This is Labour's promise circ. 2010
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This was Labour's promise circ 2003
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Was the last 7 years fair to you?
Just a worn out Labour, with the same worn out promises. .
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This was Labour's promise circ 2003
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Was the last 7 years fair to you?
Just a worn out Labour, with the same worn out promises. .
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That's a hard one, certainly not one of the main 3 parties for sure.
Ideally a mixture of some of the minority parties who would represent the views of the "man in the street", for the overall good of the nation.
A party that would take a lesser part in world affairs and concentrate their efforts and resorces on this country for a change..
Ideally a mixture of some of the minority parties who would represent the views of the "man in the street", for the overall good of the nation.
A party that would take a lesser part in world affairs and concentrate their efforts and resorces on this country for a change..
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Things have been pretty much brilliant for me and my partner, because we've worked hard and been lucky to buy property and sell it before the housing market went mental.
The smaller parties don't actually represent the views of the 'man on the street'. If they did, then they'd be one of the bigger parties.
The smaller parties don't actually represent the views of the 'man on the street'. If they did, then they'd be one of the bigger parties.
[Two Part Post]
Well I don’t know your circumstances, jno, but the last twelve years (and particularly the last seven) have not seen my fortunes rise and have not been treated in any way that I can describe as “fair”.
- The value of my investments (including my pension pot) has gone down the kharzi.
- The taxation I pay to the Exchequer under various guises has increased considerably.
- The value of my house has decreased by about 30%.
- The prices I pay for life’s necessities (particularly water, fuel, energy, transport, food and drink) have increased at a far greater rate than my income.
- The value of my £ has decreased by about 25% against most major currencies over the past two years.
Of course most of this is all due to the “global” financial crisis and was in no way brought about by twelve years of Labour incompetence. So let’s look at a few facts.
The pound has lost 14% against the Swedish Krona since 1998, 24% against the Chinese yuan, 33% against the Swiss Franc and 35% against the Japanese Yen (despite Japan itself having experienced some severe difficulties in the same period).
Compared to 1998 the FTSE 100 has dropped 12%. By contrast, among the other nations subject to the same global crisis, the French market shows a mere 1% decrease, whilst Germany shows a 12% profit, the US (where all this apparently started) also turned in a 12% increase on 1998 and Hong Kong a massive 77%. Britain’s budget deficit, at 13% is the highest in the G20 group, exceeding even Greece (recently described as a “basket case”, in need of a bail out, and whom Mr Brown gave advice on how to manage their affairs).
Well I don’t know your circumstances, jno, but the last twelve years (and particularly the last seven) have not seen my fortunes rise and have not been treated in any way that I can describe as “fair”.
- The value of my investments (including my pension pot) has gone down the kharzi.
- The taxation I pay to the Exchequer under various guises has increased considerably.
- The value of my house has decreased by about 30%.
- The prices I pay for life’s necessities (particularly water, fuel, energy, transport, food and drink) have increased at a far greater rate than my income.
- The value of my £ has decreased by about 25% against most major currencies over the past two years.
Of course most of this is all due to the “global” financial crisis and was in no way brought about by twelve years of Labour incompetence. So let’s look at a few facts.
The pound has lost 14% against the Swedish Krona since 1998, 24% against the Chinese yuan, 33% against the Swiss Franc and 35% against the Japanese Yen (despite Japan itself having experienced some severe difficulties in the same period).
Compared to 1998 the FTSE 100 has dropped 12%. By contrast, among the other nations subject to the same global crisis, the French market shows a mere 1% decrease, whilst Germany shows a 12% profit, the US (where all this apparently started) also turned in a 12% increase on 1998 and Hong Kong a massive 77%. Britain’s budget deficit, at 13% is the highest in the G20 group, exceeding even Greece (recently described as a “basket case”, in need of a bail out, and whom Mr Brown gave advice on how to manage their affairs).
[Part Two]
Nonetheless, I hear people laud, spending on, say, the health service has doubled in ten years. My GP is more than happy with this. He is receiving approximately twice the pay he got five years ago, he no longer has to turn out in the middle of the night to treat his patients, no longer runs an evening or weekend surgery and closes lunch time and one half day a week. If your chosen profession is, say, a “Five-A-Day” co-ordinator, or a Lesbian Outreach Advisor, you will see plentiful job opportunities in the Guardian at around three or four times the pay a junior nurse gets for emptying bedpans and wiping vomit off elderly patients’ pyjamas in the small hours. The doubling of spend on health does not seem to have filtered down very fairly to her.
It is not within the government’s gift to ensure that life is “fair” for all. Unfortunately Mr Brown and his colleagues seem to think that it is and their strategy for doing so is to take money from people who work hard and pay extortionate taxes and give it to people who either sit on their backsides and do nothing at all or to those who have become that ever growing part of the government machine which produces or provides next to nothing of any value.
So I don’t know where you’ve been living, but wherever it was I must have been elsewhere.
Nonetheless, I hear people laud, spending on, say, the health service has doubled in ten years. My GP is more than happy with this. He is receiving approximately twice the pay he got five years ago, he no longer has to turn out in the middle of the night to treat his patients, no longer runs an evening or weekend surgery and closes lunch time and one half day a week. If your chosen profession is, say, a “Five-A-Day” co-ordinator, or a Lesbian Outreach Advisor, you will see plentiful job opportunities in the Guardian at around three or four times the pay a junior nurse gets for emptying bedpans and wiping vomit off elderly patients’ pyjamas in the small hours. The doubling of spend on health does not seem to have filtered down very fairly to her.
It is not within the government’s gift to ensure that life is “fair” for all. Unfortunately Mr Brown and his colleagues seem to think that it is and their strategy for doing so is to take money from people who work hard and pay extortionate taxes and give it to people who either sit on their backsides and do nothing at all or to those who have become that ever growing part of the government machine which produces or provides next to nothing of any value.
So I don’t know where you’ve been living, but wherever it was I must have been elsewhere.
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