Ruth Davidson

[maggiebee]

Just heard that Ruth Davidson had given birth to a boy. The Scottish Conservative leader tweeted on Friday afternoon that she and her partner Jen Wilson named the child Finn Paul Davidson. He weighed 10lb 1.5oz. Not quite sure how I feel about this but wish wee Finn a long and happy life.

[andy-hughes]

SparklyKid - // I get fathers days cards from my wifes children, with the word step written on, quite touching. //

And significant - you refer to them as 'my wife's children … ' so clearly you don't see that as your children, and why indeed should you? You haven't raised them, they don't see you as a parent.

I have been with my oldest girls since they were six and four - they see me as their dad because that is what I am, so i don't get cards with 'step' written on, and I would find it hurtful if I did.

[SparklyKid]

AH describes me as a bigot and a homophobe for not embracing the concept of same sex couples raising children.

Further input is futile and I shall leave you to it.

[spathiphyllum]

Do you know what isn't healthy??? Kids being pushed around foster parents until they're 18 and legally obliged to look after themselves. Do you know what is healthy? Giving a kid a loving home with parents who love but more importantly, support them.

[spathiphyllum]

Maybe those who think it's unhealthy for same sex couples to adopt don't realise the unhealthy number of children there are up for adoption.

[carolegif]

Ruth Davidson was on The One Show a little while ago. She did not have IVF, but used a sperm donor with her eggs. She has had the first child and her partner is going to have the second with the same donir and her own eggs. I know of two other couples who have done this and it worked out fine.

[spathiphyllum]

Father figures aren't as important in life as knowing you're loved, cared for and supported. Many children grow up without fathers and it usually makes them stronger themselves.

[andy-hughes]

SparklyKid - // AH describes me as a bigot and a homophobe for not embracing the concept of same sex couples raising children. //

I understand why you don't debate properly - it's because you don't read and understand the points that are made to you, and you take umbrage at insults that don't exist.

If you re-read my post, you will see that I said that bigotry and homophobia have no place in a loving family - I did not state, or even infer that you are a bigot and a homophobe.

However, if the cap fits ….

[SparklyKid]

Neither are mothers, I have personal experience.

[SparklyKid]

However, if the cap fits ….

17:00 Fri 26th Oct 2018



Just cannot help yourself.

[Mamyalynne]

Children need love,guidance and stability - that can come in many different packages.

[spathiphyllum]

That is true SK and i never said otherwise.

One thing about mothers though is they have a very special bond with their babies.. because they are pretty much one for 9 months.. After that they crave the mothers warmth and breasts. They do not crave by any means their fathers.

[andy-hughes]

SparklyKid - // Neither are mothers, I have personal experience. //

Assuming that further input is not now futile, and you are no longer leaving us to it - you'll need to explain what this post means, in order to get a meaningful response - assuming you actually want one of course.

[spathiphyllum]

very true mamy. Look at the animal kingdom... we're not so different from them. Look at a pack of chimps for example. secret life of chester zoo

[SparklyKid]

Spot on Spath. My wife phones her daughter every day, I speak to mine perhaps weekly.

[SparklyKid]

Leave it alone AH. I am no longer interested in your posts. Extend me the courtesy of ignoring mine please.

[spathiphyllum]

Your role in her life is very important, no less than the mothers, however the biological connection and natural instinct draws offspring to their mothers, or mother figures.


For example.....


A baby duck hatches, it looks at you first, you're its mama.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // One thing about mothers though is they have a very special bond with their babies.. because they are pretty much one for 9 months.. After that they crave the mothers warmth and breasts. They do not crave by any means their fathers. //

That is true, but that is biology, and it has always been thus.

But we need to appreciate that as a modern society, the 'nuclear' family model no longer holds the influence and sway that it did, in the same way that marriage is seen as no longer essential for co-habiting and raising children.

Society, and culture, evolve, and we must evolve with them.

[andy-hughes]

SparklyKid - // Leave it alone AH. I am no longer interested in your posts. Extend me the courtesy of ignoring mine please. //

If you enter a thread, your posts are up for analysis and discussion - if you don't want that, don't post.

[spathiphyllum]

"but that is biology"

Exactly! Something that no matter what, is driven into our nature. Magnificent

[Lie-in King]

My congratulations to the family :-)