Plebgate - The Poluce Made It All Up.

[Gromit]

Turns out the 'eyewitness' wasn't there and was in fact not even on duty at the time. He has been charged.

You've got to laugh.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9753261/New-footage-of-Mitchell-plebgate-spat-emerges.html

[Gromit]

// No 10 calls for urgent investigation into allegation that serving officer fabricated evidence against former chief whip //

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/dec/18/andrew-mitchell-pleb-met-police

[Gromit]

FredPuli42

Not sure that is true Fred. The CCTV and the testomony of the two officers varies. They say in the official police log leaked to the Daily Telegraph that the incident was witnessed by several members of the public who were shocked. The CCTV shows no gathering of witnesses. That undermines the rest of their account.

[emmie]

it's not funny though is it. Whether one likes the man or not, he lost his job over this, and it is a problem because if the serving police officer wasn't actually on the scene, it's fabrication of evidence, not good for him or the Met

[emmie]

the CCTV there was no one else around, for once someone must be thankful that the cameras were whirring..

[sp1814]

Ludwig

I've come to this thread late, but seriously - 'Gategate' is a work of pure genius.

Take a bow sir.

[jno]

is the CCTV footage of the actual incident available?

[TheNovice]

I tite polce federation may have a case to answe here. They seem to have had the PC pleb t-shirts made up and distributed very quickly! The Sun - having been sold what look like a real pup of a story hardly gives it a mention.I really hope this newsaper is implicated in this!

[TheNovice]

that should start I think...

[douglas9401]

A police spokesman was quoted as saying "we're all in this together".

[emmie]

there is footage from the time that Mitchell wheeled his bicycle out of the gates of No 10, you cannot tell what is being said obviously, but given the time span it seems quite unlikely that he would have had all that time to mouth off not just so many expletives, but the rest of the so called diatribe. He is seen cycling off into the distance, and there does not seem from the footage to be anyone else around. It was shown any number of times last evening on channel 4.

[youngmafbog]

I would never believe a word Plod say unless there was other evidence to back it up.

Not just this incident, many would stitch up theri own grandmother if it meant an extra arrest on their sheet.

[ladybirder]

http://www.channel4.com/news/andrew-mitchell-plebgate-police-cctv-downing-street

[ludwig]

// I would never believe a word Plod say unless there was other evidence to back it up. //

Neither would I necessarily. The reason I was convinced it had to be Mitchell who was lying was quite simply because the police had absolutely nothing to gain from making up his rant. Nothing whatsoever.
Conversely, Mitchell would have had good reason to deny it if their version was true.

I see another man has since been arrested...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20795489

[Old_Geezer]

Lot of fuss about not much. Someone lost their rag it seems. Not a good example but we all have bad days. Disagreement on the exact insult hurled ? Who should care ? No one uses the definition of plebeian, or gets overly uptight about the word pleb these days. It's a mild put down as one might use when arguing with someone. Mitchell should have been reprimanded for his behaviour unbecoming an MP. It's up to him and his party whether he resigned. As to what insults were hurled according to the police account, that is irrelevant. Regardless who gives the more accurate account. All concerned should move on and stop milking being in the public eye.

[ludwig]

^ There's actually a bit more to it than a fuss about someone losing their rag OG.

The fuss is about who's lying and why. Two people have been arrested and someone's lost their job and potentially had their career permanently damaged.