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I read this earlier. I hope it gives the poor lady peace, she seems very troubled and very alone and unhappy. x
23:31 Thu 25th Oct 2018
//at least it stopped his awful caterwauling !! ;0) //

'Fraid not.

"In 2006, he returned to pop music .."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens
missed that..phew ..;0)
Well done! Haaaa! :o)
'caterwauling'? Can I suggest a hearing check or that you're not confusing him with Shakin Stevens? :-)
No-one dislikes Islam more than I do but don't knock the Catman.......man.
Come on, everyone knows, without pointing it out, that it's Cats that do cat-erwauling.
Vetuste: You write "THe Christian martyr dies[i for her faith.

The Muslim martyr [i]kills] for hers."

Pithy, but having read the Koran (not as a Muslim, just a seeker-after-truth), I don't recollect any such instruction,.

Was it just a witty observation, or do you have any Islamic reference?

Ta.

BillB
There, but for the grace of reason, go I.
bainbrig, //having read the Koran (not as a Muslim, just a seeker-after-truth), I don't recollect any such instruction,. //

I can only assume you missed several chunks. Try reading it again.
naomi. “I can only assume you missed several chunks. Try reading it again.”

Alright, since you’re an expert, which ‘chunks’ instruct female would-be martyrs in their actions?

B
Jihad is a collective responsibility. It is incumbent upon all Muslims, male and female, to further the cause of Allah.
That is NOT a quote from the Quran.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire then.
Bainbrig, no, it isn’t a quote from the Koran – but it’s what the Koran teaches. Having read the book you’ll no doubt be familiar with the verses that encourage torture and slaughter.
(STAGE WHISPER: Ah, you see, what’s happened here folks is, bainbrig has asked Naomi for proof of something. Naomi can’t find it, so she’s turning it round for bainbrig to find. A classic Naomi ploy in action)
Good try Zacs but yet another failure. Have a look at this. Gender non-specific.

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.”

[Al-Qur’an 2:190-191]
Zilch about martyrdom there.
//And do not think of those killed in Allah’s path as dead: indeed they are alive and receive their sustenance from their Lord. They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah. (Surah 3, Aal-e Imran verse 169-170)//

Gender non-specific.
But martyrdom (specifically female if poss) is what bainbrig wants proof of. And that’s not it.
Wriggle on, Zacs. :o)

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