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Does Pretending To Know Things You Don't Know Have Any Effect On Your Well Being (Physical Or Psychological)?
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It has been suggested in a previous thread that pretending to know things you don't know leads to psychological problems.
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“... I've recently read a book about religion, faith and all things spiritual in which the author suggests that the words “faith” and “religion” can often be replaced in a sentence with the phrase “pretending to know things you don't know” or variations on it. It works in almost all cases I can think of...”
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“... I've recently read a book about religion, faith and all things spiritual in which the author suggests that the words “faith” and “religion” can often be replaced in a sentence with the phrase “pretending to know things you don't know” or variations on it. It works in almost all cases I can think of...”
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Birdie, this must be the first thread that has actually demonstrated a truth (apart from the fact that most people are deficient in the spelling department). That truth is that religious believers are quite rationally compromised. Whether they are rationally compromisedl because they have acquired religion or acquired religion because they are...
18:58 Wed 27th Nov 2013
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Take for example Idoysyncracy's illustration of the cake tin. When the cake tin is new and never used - it produces the perfect cake - no dents or flaws. However once the tin has been knocked or bashed it then contains a dent - therefore every cake produced from that tin now becomes imperfect. Simple! "
The cake tin doesn't bash itself, though. Someone drops it, or hits it with a hammer.
Take for example Idoysyncracy's illustration of the cake tin. When the cake tin is new and never used - it produces the perfect cake - no dents or flaws. However once the tin has been knocked or bashed it then contains a dent - therefore every cake produced from that tin now becomes imperfect. Simple! "
The cake tin doesn't bash itself, though. Someone drops it, or hits it with a hammer.
Birdie, this must be the first thread that has actually demonstrated a truth (apart from the fact that most people are deficient in the spelling department). That truth is that religious believers are quite rationally compromised. Whether they are rationally compromisedl because they have acquired religion or acquired religion because they are rationally compromised is not demonstrated. You've probably guessed what your next project must be.:o)
I have tried to follow this thread but I just don't get it.
I don't think believers Pretend to believe. They do believe ! What is more they are unable to even consider they may be wrong. This week I had two clerics who admitted that God did kill thousands of innocent babies but that that he must have a reason totally beyond our understanding. W
I don't think believers Pretend to believe. They do believe ! What is more they are unable to even consider they may be wrong. This week I had two clerics who admitted that God did kill thousands of innocent babies but that that he must have a reason totally beyond our understanding. W
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Naomi@The verse you quote in John 8 v 11 is spurious and not part of the actual inspired text.
As mentioned previously, the Hebrew meaning of the word "sin" is - missing the mark of imperfection.
Topic: Sin (Noun and Verb)
is, lit., "a missing of the mark," but this etymological meaning is largely lost sight of in the NT. It is the most comprehensive term for moral obliquity. It is used of "sin" as (a) a principle or source of action, or an inward element producing acts, e.g., Rom. 3:9; 5:12,13,20; 6:1,2; 7:7 (abstract for concrete); 7:8 (twice),9,11,13, "sin, that it might be shown to be sin," i.e., "sin became death to me, that it might be exposed in its heinous character:" in the clause, "sin might become exceeding sinful," i.e., through the holiness of the Law, the true nature of sin was designed to be manifested to the conscience;
(Taken from Vines Expository of Bible words)
Romans 6 v 23 - Yes, we die because of Adam's "sin". Had he not rebelled then he would have remained perfect, lived forever and never died and we would not be here today! Therefore, the wages, or payment, for that act of Adam's is that we all die.
Through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ - a perfect man - he bought back (or paid the ransom) for what Adam lost. Which is way Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth & the life" - John 14 v 6.
As mentioned previously, the Hebrew meaning of the word "sin" is - missing the mark of imperfection.
Topic: Sin (Noun and Verb)
is, lit., "a missing of the mark," but this etymological meaning is largely lost sight of in the NT. It is the most comprehensive term for moral obliquity. It is used of "sin" as (a) a principle or source of action, or an inward element producing acts, e.g., Rom. 3:9; 5:12,13,20; 6:1,2; 7:7 (abstract for concrete); 7:8 (twice),9,11,13, "sin, that it might be shown to be sin," i.e., "sin became death to me, that it might be exposed in its heinous character:" in the clause, "sin might become exceeding sinful," i.e., through the holiness of the Law, the true nature of sin was designed to be manifested to the conscience;
(Taken from Vines Expository of Bible words)
Romans 6 v 23 - Yes, we die because of Adam's "sin". Had he not rebelled then he would have remained perfect, lived forever and never died and we would not be here today! Therefore, the wages, or payment, for that act of Adam's is that we all die.
Through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ - a perfect man - he bought back (or paid the ransom) for what Adam lost. Which is way Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth & the life" - John 14 v 6.
idiosyncrasy, //Had he not rebelled then he would have remained perfect…Therefore, the wages, or payment, for that act of Adam's is that we all die..//
I’m rather pleased you used that word ‘act’. Yes, indeed. Adam sinned.
//The verse you quote in John 8 v 11 is spurious and not part of the actual inspired text.//
What you really mean is that’s another bit that didn’t fit and so has been conveniently chopped, by anonymous interpreters, out of your JW bible. (I've checked).
//Through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ - a perfect man - he bought back (or paid the ransom) for what Adam lost.//
In that case God's had his pound of flesh and we should all be perfect now, no?
I’m rather pleased you used that word ‘act’. Yes, indeed. Adam sinned.
//The verse you quote in John 8 v 11 is spurious and not part of the actual inspired text.//
What you really mean is that’s another bit that didn’t fit and so has been conveniently chopped, by anonymous interpreters, out of your JW bible. (I've checked).
//Through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ - a perfect man - he bought back (or paid the ransom) for what Adam lost.//
In that case God's had his pound of flesh and we should all be perfect now, no?
naomi24//Through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ - a perfect man - he bought back (or paid the ransom) for what Adam lost.//
In that case God's had his pound of flesh and we should all be perfect now, no?
locusts / First this cruel god gave up his only son (and he /Jesus /was willing to do so)
to save the hole of mankind from payment death / opportunity to go to heaven or a life on earth / when Jesus arrives in his glory. This was the /ransom /that Jesus payee
Mr 1:9-11 Lu 4:43
Through millenniums of association and experience with his Son, god came to know him as no one else did. God was thoroughly familiar with his Son’s mental attitude and heart condition. For example, though the Word was the preeminent created one, he did not seek to be worshiped, as did the spirit creature who became Satan. Unlike the lawless angels who rebelled before the Flood, the Son seeks always to please his Father. Hence, the apostle psalmist’s words, saying: Paul applies to him the “God is your throne forever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness. You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.” Moreover, he has always been interested in humans for their good. And he repeatedly manifested his reliance on the Father, whose will he earnestly desired to do. So even before Jesus was born as a human, god could be certain that he would keep integrity.
This is indicated at which Jesus doubtless came to realize was speaking prophetically of himself, telling of the sacrifice of his perfect human body in preference to all the animal sacrifices offered under the Law given through Moses.
However, despite the suffering and death involved in this sacrifice, what was Jesus’ attitude, also the basis for that attitude? /“To do your/will/ will/, O my God, I have /delighted/, and your law is within my /inward parts./
Naomi//In that case God's had his pound of flesh and we should all be perfect now, no?//
God was not asking for a pound of flesh. Think about a kidnap case and the kidnappers want a huge sum of money in order to release the captive. Who pays the ransom money? Using a close relative/friend/corporation etc.
In the case of mankind - Adam took a perfect & everlasting life. Because God had said that if Adam disobeyed he would die - he had to carry out that action.
But what about the millions of people who would also die as a result of what Adam had done? Adam was no longer perfect so his genes could not pass on a perfect life. Hence God had to do something for those innocent unborn. Jesus had been with his father for eons - he knew what the original purpose for the earth & mankind was. He offered - to give up a perfect life to buy back (pay the ransom) to get back the one lost by Adam.
Is the fog now clear?
God was not asking for a pound of flesh. Think about a kidnap case and the kidnappers want a huge sum of money in order to release the captive. Who pays the ransom money? Using a close relative/friend/corporation etc.
In the case of mankind - Adam took a perfect & everlasting life. Because God had said that if Adam disobeyed he would die - he had to carry out that action.
But what about the millions of people who would also die as a result of what Adam had done? Adam was no longer perfect so his genes could not pass on a perfect life. Hence God had to do something for those innocent unborn. Jesus had been with his father for eons - he knew what the original purpose for the earth & mankind was. He offered - to give up a perfect life to buy back (pay the ransom) to get back the one lost by Adam.
Is the fog now clear?
idiosyncrasy, //Think about a kidnap case and the kidnappers want a huge sum of money in order to release the captive. Who pays the ransom money? Using a close relative/friend/corporation etc.//
But once the ransom is paid, it’s paid. Future generations don’t carry on paying. This is not one incidence of kidnap – it’s an on-going extortion racket.
//Is the fog now clear?//
Doesn’t seem to be. You seriously need to sort your brain out.
Your post to Ratter says much about you and about your organisation where love and kindness count for nothing. That human beings are so self-obsessed to allow themselves to believe such arrant, evil, nonsense makes my blood run cold. It really does.
By the way, JWs’ correlation between the Archangel Michael and Jesus has to be the wonkiest piece of logic I’ve ever encountered.
But once the ransom is paid, it’s paid. Future generations don’t carry on paying. This is not one incidence of kidnap – it’s an on-going extortion racket.
//Is the fog now clear?//
Doesn’t seem to be. You seriously need to sort your brain out.
Your post to Ratter says much about you and about your organisation where love and kindness count for nothing. That human beings are so self-obsessed to allow themselves to believe such arrant, evil, nonsense makes my blood run cold. It really does.
By the way, JWs’ correlation between the Archangel Michael and Jesus has to be the wonkiest piece of logic I’ve ever encountered.
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