For Sqad, And Others...latest Polls

[mikey4444]

Found this in the BBC News Website this morning ::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18264385

As you can see, Labour ahead since May 2012.

[Sqad]

LOl...good morning mikey..........knew they would have been good for Labour otherwise we would not have heard from you (hope that isn't unfair, wasn't meant to be).

I got bored halfway down.

I don't think that anybody has EVER disputed that Labour had been ahead in the polls since 2012.

[mikey4444]

Good morning to you as well Sqad...nice and warm in the Med today I hope.

No, as you say, no one can possibly say that Labour haven't been ahead in the Polls for nearly 3 years. But it is at odds sometimes with the widely spread view that Labour can't be trusted with the economy. You see the Tory papers chipping away at Labour but the general public stubbornly refused to be taken in. As I have often said, it could all change for the better for dave but if he is going to have any chance in May 2015, he had better get his skates on !

One tactic he could consider is to stop plying the Head Frog with a ploughmans lunch, and put his wellies on and get down to Somerset and start showing some concern for his own people, most of which are his own Parties voters.

[naomi24]

The people taking part in the polls have probably heard about all that money the union leaders make and want a slice of the action. ;o)

[mikey4444]

You are probably right naomi....that will be the answer why Labour has been ahead in the Polls for so long. It never occurred to me that there was such a simple answer as to why the Tories have been so far behind Labour !

[naomi24]

There you go! :o)

[Gromit]

In May 2012 it was a 14 point lead.

Today it is a 7 point lead.

That is going in the wrong direction.

[mikey4444]

Gromit...this Poll was published last Friday, showing a 10 point lead for Labour.

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/01/31/update-labour-lead-10/

My point is that the Tories have been behind for nearly 3 years, and have shown no medium to long term improvement. The Press continually *** off the Labour Party, recently by having a snipe at Bob Crow. Ed Balls is constantly criticised and every time Miliband opens his mouth, the same thing happens. Most people would agree that there is an open goal for dave to aim at here, but he doesn't appear to be getting through to enough people to turn that his party's fortunes around, at least where Polling is concerned.

I am sure that the Tory Party HQ is aware of this but they don't seem to do anything about the situation.

[mikey4444]

By the way Sqad, I promise to let you know the instant that the Tories ahead in the Polls, even if its only one point !

[tamborine]

Labour supporters are the benefit unemployed scrounging off tax payers, of which this country is flooded (?) with.

[Gromit]

Mikey4444

In the polls at this time in 2009. (15 months before the election) the Conservatives had a 12 point lead over Labour. That trnslated in the Tories not getting enough votes to form a Government.

Not sure this link will work
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&;key=0AonYZs4MzlZbcGhOdG0zTG1EWkVPOEY3OXRmOEIwZmc&type=view&gid=0&;f=true&sortcolid=-1&;sortasc=true&page=2&;rowsperpage=250

The attacks on Labour are from the right wing press and are nothing new. Every Labour Government and Opposition has endured them. You cannot attribute Labour's poor rating as due to a few Daily Mail headlines. Miliband and his team doesn't seem to have much of a connect with voters. It doesn't feel like a Labour bandwagon heading to he election, it feels like an hesitant learner driver.

[Gromit]

// Labour supporters are the benefit unemployed scrounging off tax payers, of which this country is flooded (?) with. //

So you think Labour will romp away with the election then?

[DrFilth]

tamborine >
Labour supporters are the benefit unemployed scrounging off tax payers, of which this country is flooded (?) with. <

labour will not be getting many votes at the next election then ?

> 22 January 2014 Last updated at 17:29

The number of people out of work fell by 167,000 to 2.32 million
in the three months to November, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said. <

[mikey4444]

tamborine..your reply is inaccurate, and is offensive to the millions of Labour voters in Britain.

[mikey4444]

Gromit...was there a typo in your last post ?

"You cannot attribute Labour's poor rating as due to a few Daily Mail headlines "

Labour doesn't have a poor rating, as they are ahead in the Polls.

[Gromit]

No typo.

A 5 point lead (Poll of polls) is not a good rating, it is a poor rating.

As elections get closer, opinion polls leads always get smaller. At this rate, Labour will have NO lead in 15 months.

[mikey4444]

So if Labour 5-10 point lead over the Tories is poor, what word would you use to describe the Tories 10-5 lag behind Labour then ? Very every poor perhaps ?

It depends on what Poll you read but taking You Gov as a guide, the Tories have been consistently behind Labour for nearly three years. Isn't it the Tories that had better get their skates on ?

[mikey4444]

should be two verys in there !

[sp1814]

Wonder if the Tories might consider a coalition with the UKIP (not a typo, we should use the definite article before 'UKIP').

I try to imagine what that would be like, and in my mind, it looks like the opening scene from 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day'

[Gromit]

An incumbant Government always lose support during their term. Thatcher and Blair both had a huge majority which was cut substantially at the next election.

The Conservatives didn't get much of a lead at the general election. They are starting from a very lowly position of having virtually no majority.

To be only 5 points down 4 years in is a pretty good result.

[Gromit]

UKiP are unlikely to be in a position to form a coalition with anyone. They will do well in a lot of constituencies but come second. They may fluke one win or two but that will not be enough.

The danger from UKiP for both of the main parties, is that they will split the vote and let the other in.