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naomi24 | 08:21 Tue 19th Jul 2022 | News
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In its “inclusive language guide” for staff and students, Manchester University says sibling should be used to replace brother and sister, parent or guardian should be used rather than mum and dad, and husband and wife are also discouraged so as not to offend anyone, with partner being the preferred term instead.

Fortunately they don't appear to have noticed the 'Man' in Manchester…. yet.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19230338/manchester-uni-ban-brother-sister-mum-dad/
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As my dear mother used to say - "They are not all locked up..."
09:17 Wed 20th Jul 2022
Ellipsis

I know YOU get it.
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Haaa! And you’re still saying your bit. :o)
> Are you following the conversation, ellipsis? Read the link - the bit that recommends the words mother or father are replaced by parent or guardian.

LOL, yes, I'm following it ... are you? What so offends you about "parent or guardian"? They are simply more wide-ranging and inclusive terms. Go on, give Granny a go ... she deserves it.
naomi24

Unless you are a lecturer or the parent of a student at Manchester University - this has nothing to do with you. I don't mean that you are wrong to open a question about it - what I mean is that it has nothing to do with you.

When you wrote:

"Mothers are, in fact, mothers, and calling them something other than mother doesn't change that."

You make it sound like the university is somehow trying to eradicate the word. They aren't. It's a writing guide for their faculity and it hS 0% impact on anyone not closely associated with the university - aside from the 'What Can I Complain About Today' gang.
naomi24

I'll ask a simple question - what's wrong with University literature, letters, documents etc using the word parents / guardians rather than mothers and fathers?

Do you think that in some way this will prevent you from using the word mother and father?
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Ellipsis, Nothing offends me about the words parent or guardian. If I want to talk about parents and guardians I’ll use those words. Similarly if I want to talk about mothers, fathers - or grannies, I’ll use the correct words there too. That might present a problem to you abs your quest for ‘inclusivity’ - a strangely wonky notion that - but at least you’ll know exactly who I’m talking about. Happy days. :o)
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Still here, SP? Gosh!
Hey, great, naomi, we're in agreement - use mothers and fathers when they are the correct words, and use parents and guardians when they are the correct words! ;-)
Well I agree with ellipses and sp1814, its not abig deal on the downside but I can see benefits on the other side... it just is more considerate ... some places have been doing this for years... all letters from schools are addressed to parent/guardian
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Exactly, ellipsis. Well done.
naomi24

You wrote:

“Nothing offends me about the words parent or guardian. If I want to talk about parents and guardians I’ll use those words. Similarly if I want to talk about mothers, fathers - or grannies, I’ll use the correct words there too”

So use those words. Explain to us how this guide affects you.

You can’t because it doesn’t.

You’re looking for something to be offended by and you’re succeeding.
naomi24

How do these suggested words affect you?
Are you surprised I don’t refer to him as my partner?
So far I have been accused of telling lies that he got an MBE , accused of being woke and of being a lefty.
Holy fire balls you lot would get your knickers in a right twist if I did
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RH, it didn’t occur to me until you mentioned it here on this thread. I couldn’t care less what you call him.
Redheken72

Loads of people use the word ‘partner’ now, rather than husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend.

I say call your partner what you like. If someone tells you you’re woke they can be safely ignored.
Yet you felt the need to mention it Naomi
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You mentioned it, RH, not me.
Sigh Naomi don’t start one of your forever arguing with me!
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RH, You raised the subject, not me. You always seem consumed by anger so it might help you if you stop regarding everyone as either friend or foe. You don’t enter my mind so you can rest assured I’m neither.
Ha ha Redheken72

Best of luck!!!

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