Belgian Ban On Halal And Kosher Slaughter

[fender62]

i have to agree the ban is correct, animal suffering for some archaic religious belief
this ban should be in all western countries, as a meat eater myself i would not want the animal
to suffer, call me a hypocrite err vegans would but i do actually care about them suffering.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9064255/Belgian-ban-Muslim-halal-Jewish-kosher-animal-slaughter-backed-EU-court.html

[barry1010]

Belgium hasn't banned Halal slaughter though, only the slaughter of animals that haven't been pre-stunned.
Here in the UK over 90% of Halal slaughtered meat is already stunned and it is to be hoped that that will soon be 100%.

[emmie]

barry i don't know what the answer is then, i rarely eat takeaways the occasional Mcd when shopping.

[emmie]

i hope you are right, but how is it policed?

[ichkeria]

People see the word “halal” and throw a wobbly :-)

[Old_Geezer]

Cut Me Own Throat Dibbler did.

[emmie]

its good to be informed isn;t it

[emmie]

if its to the practice of cutting the animals throat and letting it bleed out surely that isn't right. without stunning first.

[emmie]

ick people make up their own mind what is right for them.

[jno]

emmie, all New Zealand meat animals have to be stunned before killing.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/105176142/why-and-how-farmers-kill-their-livestock

[New Judge]

//NJ I don't believe you need meat; I just think that you like meat and want meat. Is that not the case?//

You don't actually know what I need and what I don't need. You may say that some humans can live without meat but others, because of dietary constraints which means they cannot eat other things, do need meat. But you are correct, I do like to eat meat and I do want to eat it.

[youngmafbog]

I eat halal, as said above 90% is pre stunned.

Our local Asian shop has a very good butchers, and they kept us going well in the lockdowns so I shall continue to patronise their establishment.

In addition they are very well prices, the meat is excellent quality and you can get things like mutton and goat. There beef is really nice and steaks melt in the mouth. Cant get pork of course but simply go elsewhere for that its not a problem.

[emmie]

Barry has already gone to go to great lengths to explain.

[TrevorThePug]

You either eat animals that have been killed to be eaten or you don't.

Arguing about the murder method seems rather antithetical to me.

[douglas9401]

Murder eh?
Calm doon.

[emmie]

so you don;t care if the animal suffers unduly.

[TrevorThePug]

If the animal dies I get to eat it. Easy.

My school chum's family business runs a few slaughter houses, don't assume that any the livestock is given a cuddle before it meets its certain end, It is really quite brutal in all senses of the word and death is the end to its suffering.

[emmie]

i already posted APG take on chicken farming.

[ummmm]

I was actually advised to eat more meat. I cook and eat it but I'm not a big fan of meat, much prefer seafood.

I was also of the understanding that the animals were stunned first. Isn't it law?

[fender62]

i bet there is a lot of unauthorised halal slaughter going on in the uk
who cater for the hard core muslims, i remember last year i think
in some news paper, some guy doing it in his backyard...im sure thats
rare though.

[emmie]

laws maybe ummm, but how many inspectors are there, some p eople perhaps will circumvent them as they do in every walk of life