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Cameras For Our Police ?
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Perhaps its the public that should be wearing cameras ? I wouldn't mind betting that Andrew Mitchell wished he had a camera on him back in September 2012 ! Might have saved an awful lot of faffing around.
Perhaps its the public that should be wearing cameras ? I wouldn't mind betting that Andrew Mitchell wished he had a camera on him back in September 2012 ! Might have saved an awful lot of faffing around.
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Rather amazing it's just armed Police - a good start I'd say They've had cameras in Police cars for years and it's worked well. More to the point it'll be a significant deterrant effect on both sides. That is to people knowing their exchanges with police are being filmed and to those Police who think that their uniform gives them the right to wade in against...
09:46 Thu 09th Jan 2014
mikey, i have respect for the police because they by and large go a good job, if we didn't have them, who will do the following, go to a dying man/woman in the road after an RTA, pick up the bits left in the road of someone blown to bits by a terrorist bombs, comb the countryside for a missing child, stand in front of a baying mob, or a violent criminal carrying a gun, who is holding someone hostage. And walk into a situation that costs them their lives, because they were not armed, but responding to a call, as per the two young women PC's last year
Do you get my point. The bad apples don't ruin for everyone, they ruin it for themselves, and eventually they are caught and shoved out.
Do you get my point. The bad apples don't ruin for everyone, they ruin it for themselves, and eventually they are caught and shoved out.
and if we didn't have them at all, then anarchy is our next step and it won't take long, like the wretched 2011 riots. I saw the aftermath of that violence and it wasn't pretty and the bus that was blown to bits 7/7, you can't tell me that isn't something we should get rid of. or that all policemen and women are cretins who like nothing better than to shoot people, have cameras, don't have cameras, let them get on with the job.
You are right of course emmie, but for me "by and large" isn't enough.
By the way, whatever we all think about this current Duggan case, if the officers involved were using their truncheons and not guns, he would still be alive. Walk around London or any large city these days and a surprisingly large amount of our Police ARE armed. This may be the way it has to be of course, but we mustn't try to continue to think of our Police as Dixon of Dock Green. The world has moved on and, as many people on here have agreed, modern technology, like cameras, are here to stay.
By the way, whatever we all think about this current Duggan case, if the officers involved were using their truncheons and not guns, he would still be alive. Walk around London or any large city these days and a surprisingly large amount of our Police ARE armed. This may be the way it has to be of course, but we mustn't try to continue to think of our Police as Dixon of Dock Green. The world has moved on and, as many people on here have agreed, modern technology, like cameras, are here to stay.
they have batons as far as i know, and some are armed with tasers, however consider this, you are faced with an unknowable situation, stop a car with a known drug dealer in it, ask him to step out, he has a gun but they don't know that, and he fires killing the officer, a baton is not going to be of much use is it. We don't want the wild west scenario, nor go down Americas route, armed officers on every street.
we have cctv on every street, every cafe, restaurant, every public building, do you really think that anyone considers behaving better because of that fact. They like me know they are there, but they don't give a monkeys either way, and no one thinks that it was ever like in Dixon of Dock Green, the police were never like that, not in my experience. The one thing that has changed is our perception of the police, in this age of media saturation, internet.
Big difference between ubiquitous CCTV, where you can never know whether you are being filmed or not so tend to forget about them on a day to day basis, and a camera attached to the body armour of a cop.
The data so far suggests that people are far more likely to moderate their behaviour than "act up" - but hey, their are idiots everywhere.
Coppers more generally are civil servants, there to protect and serve. What damages their reputation is when they use their position to exercise their own biases, or abuse their positions just because they can.
Overall the police do a good job, and society needs them. I applaud those who put themselves in harms way in order to do their job. But they need to be mindful of their attitude toward the general public, and bad apples need to be weeded out and removed far better than they have been. Thinking about that thug from the G7 demonstrations, for instance.
The data so far suggests that people are far more likely to moderate their behaviour than "act up" - but hey, their are idiots everywhere.
Coppers more generally are civil servants, there to protect and serve. What damages their reputation is when they use their position to exercise their own biases, or abuse their positions just because they can.
Overall the police do a good job, and society needs them. I applaud those who put themselves in harms way in order to do their job. But they need to be mindful of their attitude toward the general public, and bad apples need to be weeded out and removed far better than they have been. Thinking about that thug from the G7 demonstrations, for instance.
Good idea. Every organisation has its share of bad apples, but those within the police force would think twice if their actions were recorded. Having said that, in general the police do a good job and come in for a lot of unwarranted criticism. I have respect for them – but perhaps that’s because I’ve never put myself in a situation where I’ve been suspected of falling foul of the law. (Oh, except once when I was stopped for doing 37mph in a 30mph zone. I apologised and the very nice policeman let me go).
If members of the public want to wear cameras, that's their choice.
If members of the public want to wear cameras, that's their choice.
The film of Marine A murdering the enemy soldier was not picked upon by his superiors.
It was only when he shared the footage with colleagues, and it started to be emailed around as entertainment, that it was actually discovered. If was found during an unconnected investigation when an ex soldiers computer was examined.
It was only when he shared the footage with colleagues, and it started to be emailed around as entertainment, that it was actually discovered. If was found during an unconnected investigation when an ex soldiers computer was examined.
