Teso Shopper Accused Of Trying To Steal A Wire Shopping Basket.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3264708/The-moment-Tesco-shopper-accosted-security-guards-trying-carry-groceries-car-wire-basket-avoid-paying-plastic-bags.html

In this case the security guards were only doing their job, why did this person need to make such a fuss.

/// A spokesman for Tesco said shoppers could take baskets to their cars, as long as they were brought back to the store. ///

Oh yes, and how many would? some can't even bother to wheel the shopping trolleys back where they are stored.

But it appears she managed to get a £10 voucher out of it along with press coverage, the only saving grace is that the security guards also happened to be black, else it could have been even more serious.

[andy-hughes]

//Your username is different from mine due to yours being your actual name, so why do you find it disrespectful to use your surname only?//

I find it disrespectful because that this the reason why you use it!

I have not been addressed by my surname since I left school, I do not intend to tolerate it now in order for you to use a superior attitude.

For someone who so sensitive about being 'attacked', you do spend an inordinate about time off-thread arguing with other AB'ers about correct address forms - while failing to observe them when arguing (which you do with tiresome regularity) with me.

// If you continue to be so disrespectful, I shall report each sighting of it.
That is not an ‘attack’, or a ‘threat’ – merely advance warning. ///

// Oh a warning is it, and a threat also, who cares, if you demand respect then it is only fair that you must also show it to others. //

I give up, there is simply no reasoning with you.

But consider this - I am not the one who has posts and threads removed, or who falls out with other AB'ers on a daily basis and then moans about being 'attacked'.

Respect is indeeda two-way street - you could go a long way by simply doing me the courtesy of addressing me politely - that is just good manners.

[PankySmooch]

^^^^^ Well said Hughesie

[anotheoldgit]

/// I have not been addressed by my surname since I left school, I do not intend to tolerate it now in order for you to use a superior attitude. ///

Before accusing others of using a superior attitude, you should first take a look at yours.

/// For someone who so sensitive about being 'attacked', you do spend an inordinate about time off-thread arguing with other AB'ers about correct address forms - while failing to observe them when arguing (which you do with tiresome regularity) with me. ///

I do not generally observe them with you, because it is only you that has them recovered, seems strange how my posts are never removed when (according to you) I argue with other ABers.

/// I give up, there is simply no reasoning with you. ///

And yet you still go on.

/// But consider this - I am not the one who has posts and threads removed, or who falls out with other AB'ers on a daily basis and then moans about being
'attacked'. ///

Unlike you I am not in the privileged position to be able to have posts or even threads removed, and for your information I don't fall out with other ABers on a daily basis, I just defend my corner, without the need to have posts removed as is the case on each and every thread in which you are involved.

[anotheoldgit]

"recovered"?????????

That should be "removed" of course.

[EcclesCake]

These threads are reminding me of the Oozlum bird. I, for one, am looking forward to the natural conclusion.

[Quizproquo]

I'm gonna call you "git" as long as you call Andy "Hughes". So there! :p

[andy-hughes]

Although I appreciate the support Quiz, it adds nothing to the debate, or the ethos if the AB, to give fuel to AOG's arguments that he is the only one who is hard-done-to on here - but thank you anyway.

I shall give up the argument on this thread, it's impossible to reason with someone who insists that he is the victim of some sort of conspiracy - when clearly his posts are moderated as fairly as anyone else's, and has attitude is what causes the issues.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //I do not generally observe them with you, because it is only you that has them recovered, seems strange how my posts are never removed when (according to you) I argue with other ABers. //

I am not the only Moderator on the site - others see you break the rules and act accordingly.

[ABSpareEditor]

Let's quit calling each other names they don't like, and get back on topic before this whole thread is no longer salvageable.

Sounds to me like the security guard needed some training about what the rules are about taking baskets out of the store. Surely he could have just watched her and then intervened if it became apparent that she wasn't returning the basket?

[andy-hughes]

I second that ABSE.

I think some security guards do become over-zealous in execution of their duties - and that is what appears to have happened here.

As far as the racial origin of either the guard or the customer, that really has no relevance. The fact is - until the absence of free carrier bags settles down, this type of incident will make the news.

Quite why such a fuss - headlines such as 'Chaos!' being bandied about - is being made of a simple change of policy, remains a mystery to most people.

[B00]

Think the whole process would be a heck of a lot simpler if we did away with plastic bags altogether.

[anotheoldgit]

ABSpareEditor

/// Let's quit calling each other names they don't like, and get back on topic before this whole thread is no longer salvageable. ///

Just to be clear ABSpareEditor was my post removed because I addressed a fellow ABer by his surname, or for any other reason.

In the past my username has been misused, but the posts have never been removed.

A couple of years ago, we were all given a chance to change our usernames, and although I applied to have it changed, mine was amongst others that failed in their request to have them changed.

[Mamyalynne]

B00, good point but as we know some customers would make a fuss over a bag be it plastic,paper or any other material.

[jno]

I'm trying to reember when plastic bags first came in - it was all paper bags when I was young, but we didn't have supermarkets then. Sometime in the 1960s maybe?

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, I have no idea what was in the removed post but your others in which you refer to 'Hughes' are there still.

[B00]

"B00, good point but as we know some customers would make a fuss over a bag be it plastic,paper or any other material. "

Cheers Mamya, but you misunderstood me. I don't think there's any need for a shop to provide ANYTHING to carry your shopping home with.

[Hypognosis]

@B00

//I don't think there's any need for a shop to provide ANYTHING to carry your shopping home with.//

You're right, but if they do not and competing shops, nearby do, you can more or less predict what the fate of the non-providing shop will be. It's the law of minimum effort (on the part of the general public).

[Hypognosis]

@jno

Was it an "eco-mentalist" idea too? Worries over destruction of forests? The days before waste recycling was an industry in its own right, too.

Or was it just that plastic was flat-out cheaper than paper bags? A change motivated by desire for higher profits, in other words.

We are not governed by politicians, we are governed by accountants. They can kill an entire town, if the numbers tell them to.

[Mamyalynne]

B00, really?

From a business point of view that would lose shops trade, no one would pop in on impulse and spend if they knew they had to balance their purchases in hands/on head etc whilst pushing a pram or using a walking stick.