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The formation of ISIS is more Obama's fault. They have formed in response to Obam'as attempts to topple Assad. With US and UK encouragement they have grown and been a draw for every fanatical jhadist dreaming of creating Islamic republics where stable dictatorships once ruled. The US and UK had a fantastic opportunity in Syria and they blew it big time.
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Totally disagree with that assessment. For once, the US actually did the right thing. Rather than becoming embroiled in a civil war and risk being accused of meddling, they took a step back and allowed matters to take their course.
They let Assad's neighbours try and reason with him, let the Arabs have autonomy for once.
When that failed and allegations of chemical weapons use was discovered, he was prepared to act. But then, as ever, the Russians chucked their oar in and accused the West of acting like playground bullies(with no little backing from the foil hat adorned bedwetters) so again Obama stepped back and said ok, have it your way.
Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and as usual, pathetic attempts and sheer inaction by Arab neighbours and leaders has allowed a despot to continue unabated.
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Totally disagree with that assessment. For once, the US actually did the right thing. Rather than becoming embroiled in a civil war and risk being accused of meddling, they took a step back and allowed matters to take their course.
They let Assad's neighbours try and reason with him, let the Arabs have autonomy for once.
When that failed and allegations of chemical weapons use was discovered, he was prepared to act. But then, as ever, the Russians chucked their oar in and accused the West of acting like playground bullies(with no little backing from the foil hat adorned bedwetters) so again Obama stepped back and said ok, have it your way.
Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and as usual, pathetic attempts and sheer inaction by Arab neighbours and leaders has allowed a despot to continue unabated.
// Rather than becoming embroiled in a civil war and risk being accused of meddling, they took a step back and allowed matters to take their course. //
They meddled in the first place. They armed and encouraged the opposition to rise up against Assad. They ignited the civil war. They would then use that as a pretext to escalate the conflict and install a puppet. Except the people of the US and UK had no appetite for another conflict and Cameron and Obama were beaten by their own countrymen in parliament.
// They let Assad's neighbours try and reason with him, let the Arabs have autonomy for once. //
No they didn't. The Arab League is run by despots and the last thing they want to encourage is revolutions by the people, because their own people might get the same ideas. They didn't really have any interest at all of removing Assad, so there was very little point in encouraging them to do it.
// When that failed and allegations of chemical weapons use was discovered, he was prepared to act. //
Both sides have used Chemical weapons. The sudden outrage at their discovery was meant to leverage Congress and Parliament to back an escalation, but they didn't buy it and voted to stay out.
// sheer inaction by Arab neighbours and leaders has allowed a despot to continue unabated. //
Those Arab leaders are themselves despots not interested in democracy. They are prepare to let Assad be because they are the same.
They meddled in the first place. They armed and encouraged the opposition to rise up against Assad. They ignited the civil war. They would then use that as a pretext to escalate the conflict and install a puppet. Except the people of the US and UK had no appetite for another conflict and Cameron and Obama were beaten by their own countrymen in parliament.
// They let Assad's neighbours try and reason with him, let the Arabs have autonomy for once. //
No they didn't. The Arab League is run by despots and the last thing they want to encourage is revolutions by the people, because their own people might get the same ideas. They didn't really have any interest at all of removing Assad, so there was very little point in encouraging them to do it.
// When that failed and allegations of chemical weapons use was discovered, he was prepared to act. //
Both sides have used Chemical weapons. The sudden outrage at their discovery was meant to leverage Congress and Parliament to back an escalation, but they didn't buy it and voted to stay out.
// sheer inaction by Arab neighbours and leaders has allowed a despot to continue unabated. //
Those Arab leaders are themselves despots not interested in democracy. They are prepare to let Assad be because they are the same.
So what shall we do Gromit? Blanket bomb the Middle East, get rid of all the tyrants and despots in one fell swoop? 8-10 nukes, turn the ME into a big sheet of glass?
The second anything went slightly awry if the West had intervened militarily you and the rest of the mattress soakers would have been screaming about baby killers or oil.
If these countries don't want democracy and a fair society, let them bomb themselves back into the Stone Age.
It isn't always the West's fault but deep down you already knew that.
The second anything went slightly awry if the West had intervened militarily you and the rest of the mattress soakers would have been screaming about baby killers or oil.
If these countries don't want democracy and a fair society, let them bomb themselves back into the Stone Age.
It isn't always the West's fault but deep down you already knew that.
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