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Do You Want To Hear The Truth?
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While most people want to hear the truth in such matters, it is a sad fact that when it comes to even more important matters dealing with life and death, with one’s relationship to God, and with one’s obligations to his fellowman, many do not want to hear the truth.(John 17:3)
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What can possibly be more unfaithful - and thus untrustworthy - than a person who has undergone a religious conversion?
If they had so little loyalty to their previous faith as to abandon it, why should they be expected to be any more loyal to their new faith?
In fewer words, what the frell is the point of preaching?
Oh, I'm forgetting. It's about getting people to change their last will and testament. Got to keep SLC all nice and shiny, eh?
Seasons Greetings to you.
If they had so little loyalty to their previous faith as to abandon it, why should they be expected to be any more loyal to their new faith?
In fewer words, what the frell is the point of preaching?
Oh, I'm forgetting. It's about getting people to change their last will and testament. Got to keep SLC all nice and shiny, eh?
Seasons Greetings to you.
Modeller - “Goodlife I still waiting for you to reply”
And wait you shall!
Goodlife doesn't really do all this 'answering questions' malarkey. His mind is occupied by other, more pressing matters - such as cutting and pasting biblical text into the Answer Bank for reasons best known to himself. He uses biblical quotes in lieu of actual argument and when the biblical quotes in question do not support his position, he simply ignores that fact and presses on regardless. In fact, I don't think I've ever really witnessed a more obvious example of 'blind faith'.
I do so hope he proves me wrong though on this occasion!
Goodlife - Please attempt an answer to Modeller's question in your own words. Pretty please, with angel dust on top.
And wait you shall!
Goodlife doesn't really do all this 'answering questions' malarkey. His mind is occupied by other, more pressing matters - such as cutting and pasting biblical text into the Answer Bank for reasons best known to himself. He uses biblical quotes in lieu of actual argument and when the biblical quotes in question do not support his position, he simply ignores that fact and presses on regardless. In fact, I don't think I've ever really witnessed a more obvious example of 'blind faith'.
I do so hope he proves me wrong though on this occasion!
Goodlife - Please attempt an answer to Modeller's question in your own words. Pretty please, with angel dust on top.
We are listening to lies every day of our lives by one person or another. I don't take any notice of the politicians because they are always lying.
I don't listen any more to the clergy because they are lying. I see them on TV when there are various "religious" occasions such as state funerals and all I do it turn it off. They lie and lie and mislead - its a wonder their noses don't reach round the earth.
In some cases, even those you trust tell you lies.
There are those on this site who are probably lying.
When a political chief speaks, the entire nation listens. When scientists comment on the latest scientific achievements, the world sits up and takes notice. When foremost figures in the entertainment field talk, their every word is treasured. But when God speaks, do the people listen to him? Does the entire world sit up and take notice and treasure his every word? When God speaks, do you listen!
What if you had lived at that time and you were given everything you ever needed. Time and again God gave his people everything, food, shelter, protection and even their sandals never wore out. All he asked in return was their obedience. Would you have agreed knowing that you wanted for nothing and that you could live forever?
The people had that choice. Since the maledictions manifested God’s disapproval, even as his blessings manifested his approval, the nation, as individuals and as a collective group, had to choose between the blessing and the malediction and this they could do by either obedience or disobedience. They could choose life or death.
Today people have the same choice. It is not what I say, It is all there in the Bible for you to make that choice.
What if you had lived at that time and you were given everything you ever needed. Time and again God gave his people everything, food, shelter, protection and even their sandals never wore out. All he asked in return was their obedience. Would you have agreed knowing that you wanted for nothing and that you could live forever?
The people had that choice. Since the maledictions manifested God’s disapproval, even as his blessings manifested his approval, the nation, as individuals and as a collective group, had to choose between the blessing and the malediction and this they could do by either obedience or disobedience. They could choose life or death.
Today people have the same choice. It is not what I say, It is all there in the Bible for you to make that choice.
^^ Haaa!
Goodlife, //When God speaks, do you listen!//
The last time he was alleged to have spoken was over 2000 years ago. I’m not that old.
//All he asked in return was their obedience. Would you have agreed knowing that you wanted for nothing and that you could live forever?//
No, but then unlike you, I have principles.
Goodlife, //When God speaks, do you listen!//
The last time he was alleged to have spoken was over 2000 years ago. I’m not that old.
//All he asked in return was their obedience. Would you have agreed knowing that you wanted for nothing and that you could live forever?//
No, but then unlike you, I have principles.
Naomi@ No. God is not the liar.
Remember Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." - John 8 v 44
And Titus 1 v 2 tells us "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began"
So no, God does not lie, but man following the Ruler of this World, Satan, does.
Remember Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." - John 8 v 44
And Titus 1 v 2 tells us "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began"
So no, God does not lie, but man following the Ruler of this World, Satan, does.
Goodlife I'm still waiting for you to tell me why your God killed over 2 million and was it justified , especially the slaughtering of the new born ?
Is this your answer ? .
//All he asked in return was their obedience//
//they could do by either obedience or disobedience. They could choose life or death.//
A simple yes or no will enable me to read past the first 20 verses of Genesis when seeking the truth, which you told me is in the bible.
Is this your answer ? .
//All he asked in return was their obedience//
//they could do by either obedience or disobedience. They could choose life or death.//
A simple yes or no will enable me to read past the first 20 verses of Genesis when seeking the truth, which you told me is in the bible.
ideosy //I don't listen any more to the clergy because they are lying.//
//There are those on this site who are probably lying. //
Does that include all their excerpts from the bible.?
//And Titus 1 v 2 tells us "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began"//
God failed to deliver on that promise and being as he knows everything , he knew it was a false promise . So he lied as well as being impotent.
Do you believe in the truth of the bible ?
//There are those on this site who are probably lying. //
Does that include all their excerpts from the bible.?
//And Titus 1 v 2 tells us "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began"//
God failed to deliver on that promise and being as he knows everything , he knew it was a false promise . So he lied as well as being impotent.
Do you believe in the truth of the bible ?
I've just read the bible was written by man , not God, therefore any lies are man's lies not God's. In addition all the lies were by the prophets which God used to tell his lies.
//1 Kings 22:23; Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
2 Chronicles 18:22; Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
Jeremiah 4:10; Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. //
Didn't God say to Adam if you eat the forbidden fruit " you will surely die ".
Another lie , he didn't die.
//1 Kings 22:23; Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
2 Chronicles 18:22; Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
Jeremiah 4:10; Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. //
Didn't God say to Adam if you eat the forbidden fruit " you will surely die ".
Another lie , he didn't die.
