Where did God come from?

[RATTER15]

Well!!!!!!!

[RATTER15]

Sorry Khandro, I missed that.

>>I asked for a definition earlier from the questioner, and it is still not forthcoming.<<

The God we mostly recognise on this site as "God" is surely the God of Abraham. I think you are fully aware of that really, just being a tad pedantic maybe?

[Khandro]

I'm not being pedantic Ratter, I think you should rephrase your question. There are Billions of people, some no doubt living close to you, who do not consider "The god of Abraham" to be their god.

[Ankou]

"The God we mostly recognise on this site as "God" is surely the God of Abraham."

nope not me. i wouldn't recognise any of em, even if they bought me a pint.

[RATTER15]

Khandro, you think I should rephraze the question after 183 answers from people who know exactly who and what I am talking about you say you are not being pedantic! :0) of course you arent.

Ankou >>nope not me. i wouldn't recognise any of em, even if they bought me a pint. <<

two pints?

[Khandro]

"183 answers from people who know exactly who and what I am talking about" How can you be sure of that, as you have never defined your conception of what you think other people mean by 'god'. Hiding behind such phrases as "The god of Abraham" isn't enough. Setting aside all other religions, you will find, if you cared to look, within the followers of Christianity, many interpretations, from fundamentalists, to quite liberal thinkers.

[naomi24]

Khandro, Ratter isn't hiding behind anything. You clearly know what is meant by the expression 'the God of Abraham', otherwise you wouldn't be highlighting the differences in perception. Yes, people do perceive 'the God of Abraham' differently, but fundamentally he is the God of the Bible and anyone who knows anything at all about the Abrahamic religions understands that, including you. There is no other 'God of Abraham'. However he is perceived by his multitude of followers is another matter entirely, but none will deny his commonly accepted origin. (I hesitate to omit 'commonly accepted' from that last statement because if believers were aware of his true origin, most would not accept it). I too think you're being unnecessarily pedantic, and if I may say, just a little awkward.

[Ankou]

ok ratter, any more than two though and i might start getting just a little awkward.

[Khandro]

OK Naomi, Why don't you help him out? We now move from 'The god of Abraham' to your 'The god of the bible', whatever, - definition please. I think that is a fair request considering it is the subject under discussion. For example, does he have a white beard as depicted by Michaelangelo?

[naomi24]

Khandro, I gave you the answer to your question a week ago, and I'm sure Ratter doesn't need my help, but nevertheless ..........

//We now move from 'The god of Abraham' to your 'The god of the bible',//

Move? What move? There has been no move. The God of Abraham and the God of the bible are one and the same - as you well know.

//Does he have a white beard?//

That's not worthy of a considered response.

//definition please//

I've given you the definition. Unless you're being deliberately awkward, I don't actually know what your point is in continuing this. It seems rather silly to me.

[Ankou]

santa has a white beard

[murraymints]

Scotland obviously !!!

[Khandro]

"I gave you the answer to your question a week ago". This thread is getting very long, could you please either repeat your answer, or direct me to your post. Is the depiction by Michaelangelo, a. not worthy of response. b. A real person. or c. A metaphor ?

[naomi24]

Khandro, this is what I said at 18:21 Mon 16th Jan 2012

//since most people here come from Christian/Jewish/Muslim societies, when 'God' is mentioned it's usually taken to mean the God of Abraham. Anything else really needs to be specified - otherwise it gets confusing. (We had a big discussion on this some years ago, and that was the consensus of opinion).//

//Is the depiction by Michaelangelo, a. not worthy of response. b. A real person. or c. A metaphor ?//

Since you're the one who pointed out that one man's idea of this God is not another's, the question you posed //Does he have a white beard?// does not merit a considered response, no more than if I'd have asked 'does this God wear a turban?'

[Khandro]

Is it by stealth or fear you have omitted to tackle c. ?

[RATTER15]

Khandro, I promise you im not hiding from anything, I just cant be bothered playing your silly pedantic game.

[sith123]

naomi, i was not talking to you, i was talking to jom

[sith123]

if naomi was your fairy godmother, i feel sorry for you lol.

[naomi24]

Khandro, //Is it by stealth or fear you have omitted to tackle c. ? //

Whatever are you talking about?

Sith, //naomi, i was not talking to you, i was talking to jom// Oh really? Well, in that case since you said both Jom's point and mine fall flat, I assume you're not going to tell me which one it is as I've asked you to - but are expecting Jom to know and answer on my behalf. Jom?

[Khandro]

c. A metaphor, (re. a depiction of god by Michaelangelo)

[Ankou]

khandor, there are many parts of the art world (etc), that suggest or even claim that michelangelos depiction of god in the sistine chapel is actually god within a human brain.

now that's metaphorical!

http://www.infiniteun...tine-Chapel-Adam-.jpg