A Better Life—Soon!

[Elderman]

A much better life will come soon! We can be sure of that because the Bible says that many bad things would happen on earth just before it to usher in a better life. Those bad things are happening now.

Jesus Christ foretold some highly significant aspects of what is happening today. The Bible does not say that any one feature, such as a marked by a change in people would by itself be proof that we are in the time of the end and that a better life is near. The Bible’s prophecies is about a time of the end were to be fulfilled upon a godless world. Luke 17:26, 27.

[naomi24]

I'd like to hear an answer to my question. What is so bad about your life, Elderman?

[Elderman]

Bad news.........Under huge pressure from political sources, the BBC needs some good news. On Friday it got it from Hong Kong where the Independent Commission Against Corruption secured guilty pleas in a massive bribery case. The guilty will be sentenced today.

[NoMercy]

Was that it?

[naomi24]

Is that what's upsetting you Elderman?

[beso]

Elderman// The Bible’s prophecies is about a time of the end were to be fulfilled upon a godless world. Luke 17:26, 27 //

Well there are still billions of worshippers so the world is far from Godless. Hence I don't see the end coming any time soon.

[jomifl]

Exactly what do you mean by a 'godless world' Elderman and please can you answer in your own words?

[LazyGun]

Elderman posts- "A much better life will come soon! We can be sure of that because the Bible says that many bad things would happen on earth just before it to usher in a better life. Those bad things are happening now."

Is this an example of prophetic power of the bible? This vague drivel? Just about the only thing we can be pretty sure of is that any prophetic verse from the Bible is derived from hindsight and the wishful thinking of the zealots.

And, as if its not enough to be preaching armageddon at the start of a New Year ( surely the height of bad taste), we get the usual get out clause that " The Bible doesnt specify any one feature" - No surprise there then!

[sandyRoe]

NoM, I sometimes wish I could turn my water into wine. How is it that you now have more wine than you started with?

[beso]

The faithful have been predicting the fulfilment of the Armageddon prophecy would be happening "soon" for almost 2000 years. This is one third of the entire existence of the Universe according to the most faithful so "soon" is starting to look like a long wait.

Terrible things have happened many times in the past and held up as evidence that it was imminent. In fact things are less terrible now than many times in the past.

Like the milions of faithful before him who eagerly awaited God's Holy Slaughter, Elderman will perish without seeing it.

[jno]

I am always as happy to hear from Elderman as I am to hear of other ABers on religious topics, so please feel just as free to keep posting as others do.

[Elderman]

True, some will feel discouraged because deliverance has not come as soon as they had hoped.

But should you waste this life on vanities . . . If this life is all there is, there is nothing important.

This life is like a ball thrown into the air that soon falls into the dust again. It is a fleeting shadow, a fading flower, a blade of grass to be cut and soon withered. . . . On the scales of eternity our life span is a negligible speck. In the stream of time it is not even a healthy drop. Certainly king Solomon is right when he reviews life’s many human concerns and activities and pronounces them vanity. We are so soon gone we might as well have never come, one of billions to come and go, with so few ever knowing we were here at all. This view is not cynical or somber or morose or morbid. It is truth, a fact to face, a practical view, if this life is all there is, do read (Ecclesiastes 12:13, 14)

[beso]

Elderman quotes straight from the WatchTower and yet pretends he is not part of an organised religion.

Isn't that called "lying".

[naomi24]

Elderman, I've told you before. Stop talking about 'facts'. Facts require proof - and you have none.

Are you ever happy - or are you always a misery?

[beso]

Yes, One human life is short.

Best not waste that opportunity planning for an afterlife that isn't going to happen.

[jno]

I frequently quote directly from Wikipedia. This does not make me either a wikipedian or a liar. Please do not throw personal absue around.

[Elderman]

Something that the churches don’t teach you.

Beso........no afterlife for you or me .

[beso]

From this thread:
http://www.theanswerb...uestion1088309-4.html

Elderman //I have repeated told all that I do not belong to any particular denomination. I belong to a Charity organisation and I defend the Bible because there are so many on this site who are atheists and evolutionists. //

Yet he quotes from The WatchTower. Elderman's attitudes also strongly suggest he is a Jehovah's Witness. I put it to the board that his calim to be unaffiliated is a lie.

[beso]

There is no afterlife for you Elderman.

As you say your faith give you "hope". Hope is not the same as a outcome and hope is all you are ever going to get.

[Mymom]

Beso: <<Elderman// The Bible’s prophecies is about a time of the end were to be fulfilled upon a godless world. Luke 17:26, 27 //

Well there are still billions of worshippers so the world is far from Godless. Hence I don't see the end coming any time soon.>>

Sorry, but I can’t agree with you there. As atheism continues to grow and many people worship false gods and not the true god, this is a godless society.

[boxtops]

Elderman, I've decided that I don't want to hear any news at all from you in 2012, good or bad. It's all more of the same tedious stuff, you are wasting your time on here. Those of us with faith won't be swayed from what we already believe, those without won't be converted either, and your constant preaching is repetitious and unconvincing. IMO.