Body & Soul1 min ago
Well Done To The Police Today
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et al who suppressed any notion of major disruptive process in London today. KC - send them over 10 boxes or barrels of beer for each arrest - that's 520 by my reckoning.
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//...someone being inconvenienced or... "spoilt enjoyment"... is not a matter for the metropolitan police.. so the thing you describe is not a trouble at all//
If it has potential to cause a breach of the peace it is a police matter. Whilst is is not an offence, action likely to cause a breach of the peace gives a police officer the right to warn the culprit of his behaviour and if he continues, to arrest him. These nerds are very likely to incur the wrath of those wishing to enjoy the occasion (as the "Just Stop Oil" people are beginning to discover). It has the potential to get ugly, so it is a police matter. If that (i.e. preventing potential disorder from breaking out) makes the UK a police state then I'm all for it.
Quite honestly, I don't know where they left their sense. The crowd who have bothered to stand out in the rain to watch the Coronation procession are highly likely, in the main, to be staunch Royalists, as are those watching at home on the TV. The sight of someone waving a piece of cardboard emblazoned with the words "Not My King" or some similar pathetic drivel (because he is their King, whether they like it or not) is hardly likely to suddenly convert them into ardent Republicans.
BTW, my reference to making the place look untidy was flippant. But my idea to restrict protests to places where they won't cause any upset or inconvenience is not (though I will look at Hopkirk's request to reconsider the venues).
If it has potential to cause a breach of the peace it is a police matter. Whilst is is not an offence, action likely to cause a breach of the peace gives a police officer the right to warn the culprit of his behaviour and if he continues, to arrest him. These nerds are very likely to incur the wrath of those wishing to enjoy the occasion (as the "Just Stop Oil" people are beginning to discover). It has the potential to get ugly, so it is a police matter. If that (i.e. preventing potential disorder from breaking out) makes the UK a police state then I'm all for it.
Quite honestly, I don't know where they left their sense. The crowd who have bothered to stand out in the rain to watch the Coronation procession are highly likely, in the main, to be staunch Royalists, as are those watching at home on the TV. The sight of someone waving a piece of cardboard emblazoned with the words "Not My King" or some similar pathetic drivel (because he is their King, whether they like it or not) is hardly likely to suddenly convert them into ardent Republicans.
BTW, my reference to making the place look untidy was flippant. But my idea to restrict protests to places where they won't cause any upset or inconvenience is not (though I will look at Hopkirk's request to reconsider the venues).
To someone who is an anti-royal, seeing a large number of people waiting hours (if not days) to see the royal procession, causing a significant blockage to the public thoroughfare might very well be upsetting to them – and cause a breach of the peace in that they cannot go about their normal legal activities.
In this situation, shouldn’t the police be arresting those royalists blocking the highway, having the potential to cause a breach of the peace?
In this situation, shouldn’t the police be arresting those royalists blocking the highway, having the potential to cause a breach of the peace?
“ These nerds are very likely to incur the wrath of those wishing to enjoy the occasion ”
then they should be arresting the royalists whom they suspect will get violent. not the people who are peacefully holding signs and expressing their disapproval of the monarchy…
that is ultimately what it comes down to. Many royalists are deeply intolerant and fragile and are comfortable with violence being used against people who don’t fit into their chocolate box fantasy of a country that cherishes its beloved sovereign
i am pleased that you admit that you desire a police state… it normally takes tories a while to get there so i appreciate your honesty. personally i think there is plenty evidence that police states are very unpleasant places to live and as i care about this country i do not wish it to undergo that even if it makes life slightly more convenient for people like me.i suspect you wouldn’t like it very much if you were at the sharp end though.
then they should be arresting the royalists whom they suspect will get violent. not the people who are peacefully holding signs and expressing their disapproval of the monarchy…
that is ultimately what it comes down to. Many royalists are deeply intolerant and fragile and are comfortable with violence being used against people who don’t fit into their chocolate box fantasy of a country that cherishes its beloved sovereign
i am pleased that you admit that you desire a police state… it normally takes tories a while to get there so i appreciate your honesty. personally i think there is plenty evidence that police states are very unpleasant places to live and as i care about this country i do not wish it to undergo that even if it makes life slightly more convenient for people like me.i suspect you wouldn’t like it very much if you were at the sharp end though.
Take a daytrip to Paris. Your right to protest and pee decent people off will be met by tear gas,water cannon and baton rounds. Those who are hard of understanding will learn what a POLICE STATE really is. Don’t walk around without your identity card or satisfactory form of identity for the CRS. They are pussy cats compared to other regime’s police who often leave a trail of bodies after a demo to clear up. All our Royal Parks establishment have to clear up is horse dung on The Mall which is probably more pleasant and useful. Police state my arras!!!!
//..where is Frinton-on-Sea or is it in it?//
As above, Frinton is in Essex, just along the coast, south of Walton-on-Naze. It is separated from the outside world by the London to Walton railway line which can be crossed in only one place by way of a level crossing. It came to fame in 1992 when its first fish n' chip shop opened despite vociferous opposition from residents and some councillors. I believe a second fish shop opened in 2021. The town also fought off an application by Wetherspoons to open a pub there. The town did not get a pub until 2000 when Shepherd Neame opened the Lock & Barrel. A year later a betting shop was opened.
So iconic and significant is the level crossing that estate agents advertise properties as being "inside the gates" (which leads to a premium on the price). Network Rail caused controversy in 2009 when they announced plans to modernise it. The crossing used to be one of the old hand operated double gate variety and rumour had it that the locals locked the gates at night after the last train had crossed in order to keep out the riff raff. NR's proposal to replace the gates with automatic lifting barriers caused uproar and a campaign was launched to block their removal. It was unsuccessful and the gates were moved the night before the planned day. The removal was done under cover of darkness to prevent protesters - who should have been in Thetford Forest. :-)
As above, Frinton is in Essex, just along the coast, south of Walton-on-Naze. It is separated from the outside world by the London to Walton railway line which can be crossed in only one place by way of a level crossing. It came to fame in 1992 when its first fish n' chip shop opened despite vociferous opposition from residents and some councillors. I believe a second fish shop opened in 2021. The town also fought off an application by Wetherspoons to open a pub there. The town did not get a pub until 2000 when Shepherd Neame opened the Lock & Barrel. A year later a betting shop was opened.
So iconic and significant is the level crossing that estate agents advertise properties as being "inside the gates" (which leads to a premium on the price). Network Rail caused controversy in 2009 when they announced plans to modernise it. The crossing used to be one of the old hand operated double gate variety and rumour had it that the locals locked the gates at night after the last train had crossed in order to keep out the riff raff. NR's proposal to replace the gates with automatic lifting barriers caused uproar and a campaign was launched to block their removal. It was unsuccessful and the gates were moved the night before the planned day. The removal was done under cover of darkness to prevent protesters - who should have been in Thetford Forest. :-)
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