Should Lgbt Issues Be Introduced In Lessons From As Early As Reception Classes?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813481/2million-drive-teachers-say-gay-class-fight-homophobic-bullying-schools.html

/// Schools can make a ‘positive impact’ by incorporating lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people into the curriculum from reception class up. ///

[gingejbee]

Tamborine...for someone who wants English used properly...you don't set a particularly good example.

[tamborine]

When I have a gay old time, am enjoying myself. If gkids paint rainbows I dont want it misconstrued. If poofter is offensive JTH, am happy to be enlightened by an acceptable description for my gkids education.

[anotheoldgit]

Svejk

There are some who revel in their minority status, how else would they be set aside for special treatment?

[Zeuhl]

/I want english correctly used/

when tambo?

when a 'tablet' was just something you swallowed?

I think you might have to go a long way back to take ownership of 'gay'

By the mid 17th century, the meaning of the word had evolved to mean “addicted to pleasures and dissipations.

By the 19th century the word gay referred to a woman who was a prostitute and a gay man was someone who slept with a lot of women!
the phrase “gay it” meant to have sex.

Around the 1920s and 1930s, a “gay man” no longer just meant a man who had sex with a lot of women, but now started to refer to men who had sex with other men.

It officially acquired the new added definition of meaning homosexual males in the mid-50s.

[Mamyalynne]

Nobody has hijacked rainbows in this family,the children draw them quite happily.

As for'gay' I don't think I've felt the need to say it as a word for happy/fun for years,but if I did I think my sentence would likely indicate the way I meant it.

[sp1814]

AOG

You are correct in that. But I would suggest that these are a minority of minorities.

Even the elderly.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "Svejk

There are some who revel in their minority status, how else would they be set aside for special treatment?"

Indeed, I find I am never far from someone with a planet-sized persecution complex, and keen to make sure everyone knows it.

[jackthehat]

tambo - Continue to have a gay old time, Tambo.....no-one is stopping you.
Why on earth should a child's drawing of a rainbow be misconstrued?

AOG - Given the abundance of preposterous things you have said it is difficult to pick out any that deserve the highest recognition for being complete nonsense.....///There are some who revel in their minority status, how else would they be set aside for special treatment? /// but I think that comment just about shades it.

[sp1814]

Zeuhl

You are so right about this weird obsession that some people have over they way that 'gay' has changed its meaning.

It's almost as if gay people have acquired the word, when in fact it's both gay AND straight people use the word.

And yes, I'm typing this on a tablet. If I wrote that as recently as 2008, people would say, "Eh...what??"

Why don't people complain about that?

And the word 'straight' now means 'heterosexual'.

Back in 1940, it meant sober (as in 'not drunk'). Where's the complaints about that?

[Slapshot]

No absolutely not!! the poor little beggars have enough dealing with the loo, the sandpit and learning to count never mind overloading them with complex issues like this, give them a chance to grow a little before this gets to them.... I think ministers even thinking about this need shot!!

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

Ah good I always know when a remark has proved successful, when it reaches a raw nerve in some.

[Zeuhl]

sp

I'm sure you are a 'sober' chap.

No doubt tambo would support your right to be both Gay and Straight

[DaisyNonna]

Teachers being given materials to help them? You really believe that?

[Zeuhl]

/Ah good I always know when a remark has proved successful, when it reaches a raw nerve in some. /

That's a sad admission.

Posting things with the objective and success criterion of annoying people.

I believe there's a word for that

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Can't see any reference to your 1940s meaning of the word straight here.

*** Word Origin and History for straight
adj. ***

*** mid-14c., "direct, undeviating, not crooked," properly "that which is stretched," adjectival use of Old English streht (altered, by analogy with streccan, from earlier streaht), past participle of streccan "to stretch" (see stretch (v.)). Meaning "true, direct, honest" is from 1520s. Of communication, "clear, unambiguous," from 1862. Sense of "undiluted, uncompromising" (e.g. straight whiskey, 1874) is American English, first recorded 1856. ***

*** Theatrical sense of "serious" (as opposed to popular or comic) is attested from 1895; vaudeville slang straight man first attested 1923. Go straight in the underworld slang sense is from 1919; straighten up "become respectable" is from 1907. Straight arrow "decent, conventional person" is 1969, from archetypal Native American brave name. To keep a straight face first recorded 1897; straight shooter is from 1928; straight-edge as a punk subculture is attested by 1987. ***

*** "conventional," especially "heterosexual," 1941, probably in part from straight and narrow path "course of conventional morality and law-abiding behavior," which is based on a misreading of Matt. vii:14 (where the gate is actually strait ), and the other influence seems to be from strait-laced. ***
n.

*** 1864, "straight part of a race track," from straight (adj.1). Poker sense attested from 1841. Meaning "conventional person" is first recorded 1967 (see straight (adj.2)). ***
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper
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[jackthehat]

Mr Pot........There's a Mr Kettle here looking for you.....

///Question Author
It has been put that children should be taught to be tolerant and nice to people, but that doesn't seem to be put in practice much on AB.
12:13 Thu 30th Oct 2014///

[vetuste_ennemi]

Q1 Should bullying be tolerated in schools?
No.
Q2 Should LGBT be "promoted" in schools (by, as one poster put it, presenting these life styles as differences, not deviations?
No - such a policy would run counter to the deeply held religious convictions of many parents. We should not be going out of our way to cause gratuitous offence.

[andy-hughes]

vetuste - "by, as one poster put it, presenting these life styles as differences, not deviations?"

I did point out that homosexuality is a difference, not a deviation, but i did not refer to it as a 'lifestyle' - clearly it is nothing of the kind.

Welcome to AB - hope you stay with us for a long time.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Suitably admonished, Andy. For "life styles" read "sexual preferences".