Ricky Gervais

[joeluke]

He makes valid point - these celebrities only have themselves to blame

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2740055/Ricky-Gervais-prompts-furious-online-backlash-blaming-victims-celebrity-iCloud-scandal.html

[cassa333]

RG is right. It is the old addage, if you live by the sword you die by the sword. But with social media instead lol

Interestingly I signed up for street life, that is a local web site. I didn't put a profile picture up or anything but for some reason a picture that was in a file ON MY COMPUTOR not uploaded to any internet site or sent by email in any shape or form turned up on it as my profile picture.

[ToraToraTora]

the money on the door step is not a good analogy but lets say you have £10000 in your garden shed, locked of course, and some crook knew about it, I'd say they'd quickly break in to the shed. Well the cloud secuity is like a shed to a hacker. They have to work a bit but not too much. JJ is bang on. I use a removable USB drive with truecrypt. Still not 100% but a 1000% more secure than the "cloud".

[bundleone]

He said exactly what I thought. why put nude pics anywhere if you don't want anyone to see them. in the old days we had photo albums and only showed them to people we wanted to see them.

[pixie373]

Blame the victims- thin end of the wedge there...

[ummmm]

I'm not blaming the victims but I still would have thought they'd take better precautions.

[Ellipsis]

> Its the central daftness of Cloud storage that I can't get over. I suppose its easier to share photos with other people, but what was wrong with sending them as email attachment

Sending them as an email attachment is just as bad. In fact it's worse. Email is sent unencrypted and goes through several relays that you can't control, all of which can be sniffed, en route to the recipient. Once it arrives with the recipient it may be stored on their provider's server, which can be hacked, or their own computer, which can also be hacked, or in their "cloud" email account, like Gmail or Hotmail, which can most definitely be hacked just like iCloud.

It's simple. If you don't want naked pictures of yourself to be online, then don't take any.

Where I have some sympathy is that some "smart" phones are so smart that they'll upload whatever pictures they are used to take, automatically, to some social media account (e.g. Google+) or to cloud storage, without their owners even realising that it's happening or knowing how to stop it. This default behaviour is just wrong.

[jno]

Apple say the cloud as such wasn't hacked at all; individual accounts were, via names and passwords, same as can happen with, say, phones. (In fact it may well have been via phones.)

[mikey4444]

If we all stopped being pruriently interested in all these so-called celebs, they would die of a broken heart ! The cult of celebrity...Andy Warhol was right all along.

[mikey4444]

Ellipsis has it perfectly correct here "It's simple. If you don't want naked pictures of yourself to be online, then don't take any"

Couldn't have said it better myself !

[kvalidir]

It's not ' their fault' but it is rather unworldly of them to suppose that their pics were safe. As Jayne says everything is capable of being hacked, hence any photographic wonders of my behind or other bits I wouldn't want Joeluke peering at ( sorry joeluke nothing personal) are not stored 'en cloud', but that till doesn't make it 'their fault' just because they're a bit nieive.

[ummmm]

Mikey - which is more or less what RJ has said.

[Retrochic]

its obviously not their fault the pics were hacked, but they were unwise to store sensitive material in an environment that could be hacked. If you leave your door open, or unlocked, and have your valuables on display in an open window, then don't be surprised if you come home and you've been burgled.
Why would anyone want pictures of themselves in the nude? Extremely narcissistic if you ask me.

[andy-hughes]

mikey - "If we all stopped being pruriently interested in all these so-called celebs, they would die of a broken heart ! The cult of celebrity...Andy Warhol was right all along."

An excellent point.

Just why are we as a culture so obsessed with the cult of celebrity?

If someone told me there was a nude picture of just about any 'celebrity', I could not muster the enthusiasm to go and look for it.

I appreciate that I am untypical of the market that celebrity magazines et al aim for, but that doesn;t negate my point - why is there a 'celebrity' culture at all?

Recently, Joey Essex appeared at a local nightclub.

What is the appeal of that? He's not especially nice to look at, he appears to have nothing of any interest to say, so apart from gawping at him the style of Victorian visitors to Bedlam, I wonder what else went on?

[jomifl]

You cannot solely blame the hackers as that is absolving yourself of responsibility for your own actions. If you have done everything possible to maintain your privacy then you are not to blame but if you give your valuables to some guy you've never met who is going to keep them in a shed somewhere which may have some sort of lock on the door to which there is an unspecified number of keys then you must expect things not to go as you might wish.
Mikey is right, keep sensitive stuff on a portable hard drive and only connect it to your computer when you need access.

[andy-hughes]

jomifl - "You cannot solely blame the hackers as that is absolving yourself of responsibility for your own actions."

Er, I think you can.

To give creedence to criminal activity by even the remotest suggestion that the victim is culpable is morally bankrupt.

[jomifl]

kvalidir, you can be robbed penniless and it not be 'your fault'. It does not make you any less penniless. Far better to make sure you don't get robbed in the first place..

[Retrochic]

jomilf, So are your comments condoning theft? Are you saying that if you are burgled or hacked its kinda your fault for not being careful?

[jomifl]

Andy, in an ideal world... but we know that there are dishonest and incompetent people and that systems occasionaly malfunction so it would be foolish and naive to base your actions on a perfect world that doesn't exist.

[jomifl]

Retro, How did I condone theft? I am just saying it exists, plan for it.

[Retrochic]

jomilf wrote: ''Far better to make sure you don't get robbed in the first place''..
lol! so everyone that gets robbed is asking for it? A few weeks ago someone tried to steal our Quad -it was chained in a locked building that had security lights, CCTV and the quad was chained to a post that was in concrete. Did this stop the thieves -no! The only reason they did not take the quad was they forgot to turn the fuel on and it broke down about 100 yards from where it was stored. So -was this attempted theft my fault for not having better security?