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Kgrayz | 10:29 Wed 23rd Apr 2014 | Law
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Just wondering if anyone will know who I can contact regarding my son and his friends playing football outside our home.

My little boy is 9 and his friends are 10 and 6 we live in an enclosed estate and they like to take their football goals outside and play football ..

they are to small to play over the local field .

Yesterday the police were called by one of our neigbours who often complain that the ball has rolled on this drive.

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Right can I firstly state that my children play football nowhere near the ladies house on a regular basis. Also people on here are getting the complete wrong end of the stick. The BALL DOES NOT HIT THEIR CAR. Stop assuming and read the post. Also they are children who like to enjoy themselves, they are not vandalising or being rude. The goals were moved. CORRECT. Onto my front garden.FACT. Nothing that the lady can do as Policewoman said. So a few of u are wrong right there. Finally we must be in the wrong, as out of 12 houses 9 agree with us and haven't spoke to others about it. I won't comment further as the story has been like a chinese whisper and turned into a circus act. Like the kids are Chucky from Childs Play
No I don't have children. I have a husband and pets that are considerably more unwieldy than children and have taught me diplomacy and respect for my neighbours.
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Though so Eccles.
Why have you swapped names?
I think I have played a fairly straight bat on this debate Kgrayz, why get get so personal?
if this person genuinely has some kind of overly sensitive personal issues regarding the noise etc then whilst i sympathise, they cant realise expect to be able to control the neighbourhood and expect others to alter what would be considered reasonable behaviour to anyone else.

as kids we had a few neighbours, bitter old harridans, who were obsessed with stopping us playing in the street. we had a large garden so didnt need to play in the steet much except for some things like skates, bikes, but they'd be watching, waiting etc.
my folks knew that we werent being bad etc, and while we did actually try not to annoy them, they could not expect silence etc in a public place

i too agree that kids should be allowed to play in the street - but i also agree that there needs to be some give and take - on both sides.

so, kgrayz - you have to be honest here - are your kids a genuine nuisance?
or is it really all just this person being fussy, sensitive and intolerant?

you appear to have little or no sense of controlling them, or teaching them to have some boundaries and respect, so i can well imagine they are quite raucous, and have not sense of the fact that they are not allowed onto his property and nor is their ball.

if they are anything like the cheeky and obnoxious little wretch that used to play outside my house then i would fully support the neighbour - i felt like ringing his neck at a times


i mention the 'kiddies' thing because i have noticed how people tend to use that word a lot when they are trying to defend the actions of naughty older kids - as though it somehow 'softens' it and makes them seem like harmless little lambs, in the hope of making others more sympathetic ...
but when they are angry with the kids themselves, they call them kids ...

its sometimes even subconsciously done

to me, kiddies generally seems to imply toddlers etc - not 9-10 year olds.

It sounds from your post that it is not a very big estate (you mention 12 houses) - maybe your neighbours feel like it's a bit overwhelming? I have a tiny garden (and lots of kids) so I let them play out in the street (it's a quiet cul de sac). Maybe they could ditch the ball for a bit and see how it goes?
Just to answer a question

Haven't swapped names. I'm her husband.

Aslo PLEASE UNDERSTAND. They don't play by their car. They play by ours or the parents of the other kids house. The ball ROLLS down, not hit at cars, not hit at windowa, Rolls down. I know it's a biased view but I SWEAR on my life that's yhe real
The real truth. I'm nit justifying myself no more
but it does roll down onto the neighbour's drive and the kids do chase it?
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I have 3 children whom are 3,7, 9 and no they are not brats.
they go to a Catholic school which is very strict u may think, 'yes she will say that' but my 9 year old son is very loving, caring and kind and very smiley.
I always refer to my kids as kiddies .. just something I have always called them
he was actually scared and upset that the police came around.
He is not a nuisance just a 9 year old boy who wants to play.

my hubby is pmac and regarding him mentioning 12 houses, he is correct. thats how absurd it is as technically they are not even playing on our close they play all around hence the ball rolling down the drive.
Just stop them playing with a ball.
You are both upset that your point is being misunderstood but you should read your posts back to yourselves.... "they are not even playing on our close they play all around"....

How does that read back to you Pmac and Kgrayz?
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eccles yes they play all around, i wish u could see for yourselves i can't seem to be able to update pics.
they play all around the estate like a cul de sac.. outside my house, another childs house then another child's house but when they play ball outside my house she phones the police?today they have been playing all around on bikes scooters etc and she is still complaining.
I’ve been following this with interest but have declined to contribute thus far because, as far as I can see, the question was answered correctly by Buenchico in answer number 2 before 11:30 yesterday morning. Matters seem to have taken a protracted turn for the worse since then.

You asked who you should contact (presumably) about the police being called to deal with your children playing football in the street. The short answer, which you seem not to like, is “nobody” because in doing so your children are breaking the law.

I did write a whole lot more but decided to leave it out. So, to cut to the chase, if your neighbours are determined to have this problem addressed and individual police officers refuse to see the law enforced in their favour they may well contact their inspector or somebody more senior.

In short, whether you believe it or not, your children are in the wrong by playing football in the street. The police are incorrect if they contend this is not so (the police are not usually the best people to comment on matters of law). If you want this matter resolved by compromise you must remember that you are negotiating from that position - one of considerable weakness. You need to begin with that in mind rather than by thinking your children are being “harassed”.
I wouldn't have an issue with kids playing on bikes or skates outside, my peeve is football, its impossible to play in the street without eventually hitting something, at age 10 he could probably kick the ball quite hard. If my kids wanted to play football the treat day would be a picnic and some time at the park playing football, I would probably restrict football playing to the park only as I couldn't guarantee that at some point in the future they may damage someone's property if they play it in the street especially as they get older.
Sounds like they are being normal kids, playing out on a nice day.
Seems like the neighbour is the problem.
I too have been following this without commenting but I'm glad new judge has come in with his straight talking and sense of justice which I always find bears more to common sense than anything but also from a point of law when required. One question I would ask of the OP though is, if you have a garden why do the children not play ball games within the confines of that it would hopefully solve all issues?
This has turned into quite a saga. I've been told that the police will come out for such a minor issue - but twice? And when they've told the woman they can't do anything why did they come out the second time?
What a good question dunnitall!

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