It's a no-brainer to realise that opposing the policies of the party that's just thrashed you in an election is really not going to win the next one.
What Labour need to learn is not to listen to the chattering classes who elected Milliband, and seemed think he was a potential Prime Minister - clearly he was anything but - and listen to the people who actually vote, and that includes the people they would like to vote for them.
It's time Labour lost its backwards-looking 'working bloke' attitude and realised that its core vote are aspirational achieving people, which is why they lined up with the Conservatives, who manage to sound like they don't think that aspiration is a dirty word.
Electing someone chosen by the inner party has been a disaster, Labour need to the entire party members, not just those who live inside the M25 and maybe - just maybe, they can change enough in five years to make some difference.
Although looking at the choice of shadow ministers for leader, they have got a difficult task choosing anyone who is really any better than Milliband was.