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Is it impossible to be white and a criminal?
You'd have thought so by the indignation that some people feel when they are pulled out for a random search in airports.
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Look at the responses - 'the humilation I felt', 'the indignity of a pat down search, all to ensure security staff aren't seen as racist.
Should airport security focus their efforts exclusively on black and Muslim travellers? Should white travellers queue in a separate lane to everyone else? s
Perhaps a form of airport apartheid?
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Look at the responses - 'the humilation I felt', 'the indignity of a pat down search, all to ensure security staff aren't seen as racist.
Should airport security focus their efforts exclusively on black and Muslim travellers? Should white travellers queue in a separate lane to everyone else? s
Perhaps a form of airport apartheid?
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Case closed Naomi.
You don't even have the courtesy to respond - akin to a toddler who doesn't get her way. I wonder why someone would post anything if they've got nothng.
Im starting to suspect you've undone yourself before Naomi. If you can't take part in a discussion based on logic instead of panic & fear then don't strain yourself trying to. Some people take this stuff seriously so if you're going to act like a child try to stay out of our way in future.
You're of course entitled to your bigoted views, but you can't expect to get away with trying to avoid valid points with insults and word-twisting Naomi - or at least if you do then expect many more irate folk like myself to defend themselves against such childish behaviour.
You don't even have the courtesy to respond - akin to a toddler who doesn't get her way. I wonder why someone would post anything if they've got nothng.
Im starting to suspect you've undone yourself before Naomi. If you can't take part in a discussion based on logic instead of panic & fear then don't strain yourself trying to. Some people take this stuff seriously so if you're going to act like a child try to stay out of our way in future.
You're of course entitled to your bigoted views, but you can't expect to get away with trying to avoid valid points with insults and word-twisting Naomi - or at least if you do then expect many more irate folk like myself to defend themselves against such childish behaviour.
@btw Naomi yes Birdie misunderstood me its a fact for goodness sake. Read his first post and you will see that Birdie clearly thought that religion not being on the UN's list was an oversight on my part, when in truth i gave him/her too much credit (and possibly yourself actrually as at that point I believe I thought you were still here).
Barcelonic29 -
I said I wouldn't return to this thread as I felt it had run its course. It is with regret that I find myself back here again.
The reason I have briefly returned is because I take great objection to the fact that you have specifically gone out of your way to insult me personally by using such phrases as, “... the malevolent Birdie...” and suggesting that I am mentally deficient in some way (reference was made to me using crayons). You have also gone on to claim that you felt the need to dumb your argument down in order that I could understand it and yet I still failed to do so. This level of patronising vitriol can only come from a person who is deeply unpleasant and who finds it difficult to conduct themselves in a civil manner.
Just for the record, you had absolutely no need to dumb your argument down as I understood it in the first place. What I didn't agree with is your initial premise – something that you singularly failed to address or understand – and obviously still do.
It is increasingly apparent that you have narcissistic tendencies. You appear to enjoy stroking your own massive ego by unnecessarily informing everyone how many philosophy forums you frequent (“.... I have about 60 tabs open - 12 or so are discussion threads - 11 of those are in philosophy forums...). What do you want? A round of applause? Do you honestly think that someone reading that will be impressed with it? If so, more fool you.
I fully expect more insults from you on this thread since that seems to be the level you are most comfortable with. However, I repeat my earlier request – dump this thread and start an new one. I'm sure that someone so monumentally intelligent as yourself can think of a way to phrase such a question.
I said I wouldn't return to this thread as I felt it had run its course. It is with regret that I find myself back here again.
The reason I have briefly returned is because I take great objection to the fact that you have specifically gone out of your way to insult me personally by using such phrases as, “... the malevolent Birdie...” and suggesting that I am mentally deficient in some way (reference was made to me using crayons). You have also gone on to claim that you felt the need to dumb your argument down in order that I could understand it and yet I still failed to do so. This level of patronising vitriol can only come from a person who is deeply unpleasant and who finds it difficult to conduct themselves in a civil manner.
Just for the record, you had absolutely no need to dumb your argument down as I understood it in the first place. What I didn't agree with is your initial premise – something that you singularly failed to address or understand – and obviously still do.
It is increasingly apparent that you have narcissistic tendencies. You appear to enjoy stroking your own massive ego by unnecessarily informing everyone how many philosophy forums you frequent (“.... I have about 60 tabs open - 12 or so are discussion threads - 11 of those are in philosophy forums...). What do you want? A round of applause? Do you honestly think that someone reading that will be impressed with it? If so, more fool you.
I fully expect more insults from you on this thread since that seems to be the level you are most comfortable with. However, I repeat my earlier request – dump this thread and start an new one. I'm sure that someone so monumentally intelligent as yourself can think of a way to phrase such a question.
Richard Littlejohn is twisting the facts as usual. It`s CUSTOMS who are pulling whites so as not to be seen discriminating against blacks. Security DO NOT randomly pull and search people. They only search/scan people who have activated a metal detector (as they do in every other airport in the world) except when someone is wearing something such as an abaya which could be concealing something.
Continue??????
We were both relatively civil until I put a question to you which you were unprepared to answer. You gave up on this discussion at that point Naomi - that was even before your absence.
I believe that many members of the KKK did not know ANY race/religion/ethnic information about most of the people they discriminated against. You still refuse to accept that CLEARLY your definition was wrong - I have and you refuse to and it was at THAT point you became hostile to ME.
Clearly you have your friends here (if you don't know them then you just share a trait with them - being inclined to knock somebody's argument without reading it properly or at all) so I know when Im being ousted.
But I've never met anybody quite so manipulative in my life. All i've tried to do is write the way i would speak. I've expressed my opinion and because you feel affronted by my belief you are racially discriminating you've done your best to drag me into a slinging contest.
I honestly think you feel this entire conversatinon was some kind of prize to be won; you've shown no regard for logic and clearly this is a notion lost on most of you as most people here seem to be scared of Muslims.
If there is a soul reading this who thinks it is racist to be "wary" (Naomi) of people "from Asia" (trt), then I haven't heard from them, and that I find truly disappointing.
Here's one for you guys: There were ten people in a room. One of them was not a racist.
Clearly i'm the butt of this cruel joke - I've no idea how young or old you people are but if you agree with that bigot without even reading what I've typed then shame on all of you and I hope that one day you have a child with a person "from Asia" so your child has to experience the day-to-day troubles of being a person "from Asia" living in the UK.
Hitler did a pretty good job of Germans to hate Jews. Now it seems history is repeating itself. If one of you is ever killed by a terrorist I'll jump on my pig and fly it on over the moon, you looney folk - seriously, you are all talking about being afraid of Muslims like its no big deal I feel like the only one in here who hasn't been swallowed up by the very 'rising tide' we were discussing.
We were both relatively civil until I put a question to you which you were unprepared to answer. You gave up on this discussion at that point Naomi - that was even before your absence.
I believe that many members of the KKK did not know ANY race/religion/ethnic information about most of the people they discriminated against. You still refuse to accept that CLEARLY your definition was wrong - I have and you refuse to and it was at THAT point you became hostile to ME.
Clearly you have your friends here (if you don't know them then you just share a trait with them - being inclined to knock somebody's argument without reading it properly or at all) so I know when Im being ousted.
But I've never met anybody quite so manipulative in my life. All i've tried to do is write the way i would speak. I've expressed my opinion and because you feel affronted by my belief you are racially discriminating you've done your best to drag me into a slinging contest.
I honestly think you feel this entire conversatinon was some kind of prize to be won; you've shown no regard for logic and clearly this is a notion lost on most of you as most people here seem to be scared of Muslims.
If there is a soul reading this who thinks it is racist to be "wary" (Naomi) of people "from Asia" (trt), then I haven't heard from them, and that I find truly disappointing.
Here's one for you guys: There were ten people in a room. One of them was not a racist.
Clearly i'm the butt of this cruel joke - I've no idea how young or old you people are but if you agree with that bigot without even reading what I've typed then shame on all of you and I hope that one day you have a child with a person "from Asia" so your child has to experience the day-to-day troubles of being a person "from Asia" living in the UK.
Hitler did a pretty good job of Germans to hate Jews. Now it seems history is repeating itself. If one of you is ever killed by a terrorist I'll jump on my pig and fly it on over the moon, you looney folk - seriously, you are all talking about being afraid of Muslims like its no big deal I feel like the only one in here who hasn't been swallowed up by the very 'rising tide' we were discussing.
Again so concise Naomi - it must be so nice having so little to say.
If you ever actually want to answer any of the questions I asked you go right ahead and give it a whirl.
I think I'm in the dumbest forum on the web lol. People have admitted to not reading the big posts, so anyone can just post short sweet insulting 'soundbites' and rally the room to their cause cus nobody's taken the time to read the longer, more logical poster. Naomi I could have probably done that, but I'm not a kid anymore so i find it rather a shameful tactic
I suppose now the mob has spoken and the classroom dynamics begun I might as well kick it off myself:
"Oh that guy was straaaange! What was he on about, does anyone even know? Pffffft sayonara weirdo :)"
If you ever actually want to answer any of the questions I asked you go right ahead and give it a whirl.
I think I'm in the dumbest forum on the web lol. People have admitted to not reading the big posts, so anyone can just post short sweet insulting 'soundbites' and rally the room to their cause cus nobody's taken the time to read the longer, more logical poster. Naomi I could have probably done that, but I'm not a kid anymore so i find it rather a shameful tactic
I suppose now the mob has spoken and the classroom dynamics begun I might as well kick it off myself:
"Oh that guy was straaaange! What was he on about, does anyone even know? Pffffft sayonara weirdo :)"
Barcelonic29 - “...[Naomi and I] were both relatively civil until I put a question to you which you were unprepared to answer...”
At which point you turned very nasty indeed and have never let up since.
You continue, “... But I've never met anybody quite so manipulative in my life...”. All narcissists feel persecuted by others. It's the nature of the beast.
You further say, “... most people here seem to be scared of Muslims...”. Oh dear me. No one is 'scared' of muslims. Were we 'scared' of the Irish in the 1970s and the 1980s? Of course not. Were we right to be wary of Irish terrorists and Irish terrorism? Of course we were! This country's security services would have been guilty of a dereliction of duty if they didn't actively profile potential Irish terrorists.
You seem to think that where terrorism is concerned, it is somehow 'bad form' for the security services to look more closely at the groups of people who are currently most likely to carry out an attack. That is why muslims, at this moment in time, are under more scrutiny than christians, hindus, sikhs, etc. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
And you continue, “... Clearly i'm the butt of this cruel joke...”. No you're not. Once again, your narcissistic tendencies reveal themselves.
And finally you state, “.... Hitler did a pretty good job of Germans to hate Jews...”. Indeed he did. However, it is also true to say that at that time the Jews weren't blowing up aeroplanes, ships, buildings and innocent people (the Reichstag fire being an obvious false-flag operation). Therefore Hitler’s propaganda was based on a blatant and politically expedient lie. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Islam. Not only do Islamic terrorists happily kill their 'own' people and murder innocent people left, right and centre in the name of Allah – the Islamic perpetrators brag about it online and in the media and revel in doing so.
I find it hard concluded that your Hitler analogy is anything other than a wonderful example of 'Godwin's Law'.
At which point you turned very nasty indeed and have never let up since.
You continue, “... But I've never met anybody quite so manipulative in my life...”. All narcissists feel persecuted by others. It's the nature of the beast.
You further say, “... most people here seem to be scared of Muslims...”. Oh dear me. No one is 'scared' of muslims. Were we 'scared' of the Irish in the 1970s and the 1980s? Of course not. Were we right to be wary of Irish terrorists and Irish terrorism? Of course we were! This country's security services would have been guilty of a dereliction of duty if they didn't actively profile potential Irish terrorists.
You seem to think that where terrorism is concerned, it is somehow 'bad form' for the security services to look more closely at the groups of people who are currently most likely to carry out an attack. That is why muslims, at this moment in time, are under more scrutiny than christians, hindus, sikhs, etc. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
And you continue, “... Clearly i'm the butt of this cruel joke...”. No you're not. Once again, your narcissistic tendencies reveal themselves.
And finally you state, “.... Hitler did a pretty good job of Germans to hate Jews...”. Indeed he did. However, it is also true to say that at that time the Jews weren't blowing up aeroplanes, ships, buildings and innocent people (the Reichstag fire being an obvious false-flag operation). Therefore Hitler’s propaganda was based on a blatant and politically expedient lie. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Islam. Not only do Islamic terrorists happily kill their 'own' people and murder innocent people left, right and centre in the name of Allah – the Islamic perpetrators brag about it online and in the media and revel in doing so.
I find it hard concluded that your Hitler analogy is anything other than a wonderful example of 'Godwin's Law'.
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