is it legal? I remember it all over the media some years ago but what was eventually decided? I was way up high on the moors last week and all of sudden came across 20 Land rovers (from a private road) with caged dogs in the back, and carried shotguns.
Anyway once on the moor about 40 of them made a human line the height of the moor,with 10mtr spacing, (strangest sight) then sent their dogs off and awaited a fox to come by and shoot, which had no escape route.
Is this legal? I presume a sport, and what do they do with the dead foxes? Anyone know..
boogieboogie Sat 23/08/08 16:44
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West Pennine Moors. More Specifically Anglezarke Moore.
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Are you sure it was fox hunting and not shooting game?
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It does sound more likely that they were out on a shoot (for birds!) The shooters each have a spot to stand and are equally spaced out and then beaters "beat" the land around to send up the birds so the shooters shoot them and them the dogs are sent off to pick up the birds.
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Would agree, it sounds like an organised shoot. This happens regularly behind my house. Actually, although they shoot game for food it is no more than a sporting activity for them and I get really upset by it, especially when I have injured pheasants landing in my garden.
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It looks like a Taleban training exercise!
I wouldn’t describe that sort of activity (shooting defenceless birds) as “sport”.
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That doesn't look like a fox hunt to me. COULD be grouse or pheasant shooting though, or maybe they were out for hares/rabbits.
Riding with hounds's been outlawed, but, this may still go on, on private land.
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Never understood how anyone can call shooting animals "sport." F*ckin sick hooray henrys.
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It's my understanding that fox hunting with dogs is illegal in the uk - ie the kill is illegal, but that the chase may not be and to kill with guns is legal. I'm open to correction on that.
The tally-ho baxtards will stop at nothing to get around the ban by the way - even using birds of prey to kill off the fox at the end of the chase.
BUT - what this sounds like is a grouse hunt?
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Looks exactly like a game bird shoot. Definitely not hunting foxes.
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Thanks, I'd like to think it was game however strange that is because a life is a life regardless of the form it takes and shouldn't be taken by a bullet.
I was chatting to a group of farmers in a bar a few days later they were really nice (not the hooray henry kind) and I just mentioned it casually, they said they didn't hunt, but know it goes on.
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If the birds could shoot back-that'd be Sport, but the Upper classes wouldn't be out there if they could.
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I saw your film boogie and I would say it's definitely a grouse shoot (not pheasants as the shooting season for them doesn't start until October 1) and fox shooting would not be so organised or heavily populated with guns and dogs. And anyway, what is your problem with shooting foxes? I have to say that I was never a fan of foxhunting with horses and hounds (very bloodthirsty) but foxes are vermin. They are not the cute cuddly doggy like creatures that some media would choose to portray them. You want to see the utter devastation they can cause among poultry! Years ago there was a bounty on foxes and if my memory serves me correctly if you handed in a tail (to the police I think) you got 1/- (5) for each one. That was a fair amount to a gamekeeper 40-50 years ago.
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I've seen what foxes do to poultry and I've seen what humans do to poultry and I think the latter far worse.
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First hand boogie, or on tv?
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And you saw poultry on this farm being treated worse by humans than by foxes? - shame on you!
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