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Is This Man A Liar?
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Well he isn't going to agree that he didn't win the election fair and square and legitimately is he. He's going to suspect hidden agendas and the system trying to control the president. Unsure how much it matters really. They aren't going to rerun the election nor stop keeping tabs on what other countries are up to.
As Hoe abiden has pointed out, sooner or later Trump is going to have to 'grow up'
He is going to have to stop playing the 'outsider' and acknowledge that he is part of the 'establishment' at least when it comes to the security of his country. That will mean listening to and trusting his own people and not rushing to back charlatans like Assange.
Nobody is accusing him of being complicit in this (to my knowledge)
I assume he actually still wants to be president - in which case he will need to shape up or he'll find himself on an impeachment sooner than you can say 'Michelle Obama 2020' :-)
He is going to have to stop playing the 'outsider' and acknowledge that he is part of the 'establishment' at least when it comes to the security of his country. That will mean listening to and trusting his own people and not rushing to back charlatans like Assange.
Nobody is accusing him of being complicit in this (to my knowledge)
I assume he actually still wants to be president - in which case he will need to shape up or he'll find himself on an impeachment sooner than you can say 'Michelle Obama 2020' :-)
Trump is still digging in that hole he finds himself in, despite all the evidence.
The CIA, the FBI and even his own Party all now believe that Russia is to be blame here.....everybody except Trump.
We will soon have an America President in place that supports Russia and Putin, rather than his own intelligence agencies.
I wonder how many Americans would have voted for Trump last year, if they had known this ?
The CIA, the FBI and even his own Party all now believe that Russia is to be blame here.....everybody except Trump.
We will soon have an America President in place that supports Russia and Putin, rather than his own intelligence agencies.
I wonder how many Americans would have voted for Trump last year, if they had known this ?
No he is not going to have to 'grow up' because by that statement the VP means kow-tow to the Establishment that Trump was voted in to smash a bit.
Do the Russians hack? Of course they do, do we hack, of course we do Do the USA hack - well Merkel can tell you about that. If they did hack then they did not influence the election, it is far too big for that and anyway if Hillary wasn't so bent there would have been nothing to hack for.
The other thing The Donald is right to be sceptical about is the last time we listened to that lot we ended up in a war in Iraq on the false pretence (from them) that WMD's were present.
Do the Russians hack? Of course they do, do we hack, of course we do Do the USA hack - well Merkel can tell you about that. If they did hack then they did not influence the election, it is far too big for that and anyway if Hillary wasn't so bent there would have been nothing to hack for.
The other thing The Donald is right to be sceptical about is the last time we listened to that lot we ended up in a war in Iraq on the false pretence (from them) that WMD's were present.
//We will soon have an America President in place that supports Russia and Putin, rather than his own intelligence agencies.
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The big problem with the US intelligence agencies is that they still think the cold war is on. They need to grow up and move on. I'm not saying they should not keep tabs on Russia but there are far bigger threats than from Putin who simply cannot afford any lasting war.
Of course if you would rather have had Hillary start a war (Putin's words not mine) then that is your prerogative.
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The big problem with the US intelligence agencies is that they still think the cold war is on. They need to grow up and move on. I'm not saying they should not keep tabs on Russia but there are far bigger threats than from Putin who simply cannot afford any lasting war.
Of course if you would rather have had Hillary start a war (Putin's words not mine) then that is your prerogative.
I wondered what Trump was about on this
"There has been interference Mr President !"
Pres for it is he: o come arn ! you were always gonna say that !
Spooks - quietly: no we dont normally we are usually spooky and silent
Pres: you know waaat ? I'm gonna fire all of you when I grow up and get to be president !
we do indeed live in interesting times
I suppose he feels that if he says yeah there was
then there has to be a re run
"There has been interference Mr President !"
Pres for it is he: o come arn ! you were always gonna say that !
Spooks - quietly: no we dont normally we are usually spooky and silent
Pres: you know waaat ? I'm gonna fire all of you when I grow up and get to be president !
we do indeed live in interesting times
I suppose he feels that if he says yeah there was
then there has to be a re run
// The big problem with the US intelligence agencies is that they still think the cold war is on.//
back on
Crimea ( please dont answer cry-who-er where dat den )
sable rattling in the Ukraine ( please dont say me-craine ? where dat den ?)
turning on and off the gas pipe lines
intervention in Syria
the Cold War IS back on ....wake up and smell the wodka !
back on
Crimea ( please dont answer cry-who-er where dat den )
sable rattling in the Ukraine ( please dont say me-craine ? where dat den ?)
turning on and off the gas pipe lines
intervention in Syria
the Cold War IS back on ....wake up and smell the wodka !
This throws up that wonderful dichotomy which I love to quote when it arises - he may not be a liar, but that does not mean that what he is saying is true.
To explain - if Mr Clapper believes what he says to be true, then he speaking the truth as he believes it, so he is not a liar.
However, that does not mean that what Mr Clapper is saying is in fact the truth, and that is the router of the problem.
Because of the sheer mass of intricacies and chicanery involved in the activities of the secret services, it is probably impossible to know what the truth is, because all we will ever get is 'the facts' as the are given to us to suit the agenda of the person(s) giving them.
To explain - if Mr Clapper believes what he says to be true, then he speaking the truth as he believes it, so he is not a liar.
However, that does not mean that what Mr Clapper is saying is in fact the truth, and that is the router of the problem.
Because of the sheer mass of intricacies and chicanery involved in the activities of the secret services, it is probably impossible to know what the truth is, because all we will ever get is 'the facts' as the are given to us to suit the agenda of the person(s) giving them.
YMB....08:34.....Hilary has nothing to do with this at all. This is about whether Trump is going to accept what his security agencies are telling him or not.
As of today, he is still refusing to believe them, despite the evidence that has been shown to Congress.
My best guess on this, is that all the sensible people surrounding Trump, and there must be some, at least, will force him to change his mind, and he will do that with as much bad grace as he can muster.
In other words, it will be another Trump u-turn.
If this is how he intends to behave for the next 4 years, then God help us all.
As of today, he is still refusing to believe them, despite the evidence that has been shown to Congress.
My best guess on this, is that all the sensible people surrounding Trump, and there must be some, at least, will force him to change his mind, and he will do that with as much bad grace as he can muster.
In other words, it will be another Trump u-turn.
If this is how he intends to behave for the next 4 years, then God help us all.
