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Bbc News, Integrtion Has Not Worked With Muslims

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dieseldick | 06:04 Thu 11th Aug 2016 | Society & Culture
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just heard it on news, they were talking about muslims integrating into germany and merkel now has a massive task on her hands to find a solution to the problem, they talked about the problems that faced france and jaques chirac banning of the burhka etc when he was in charge, german security experts are now saying that they believe isis teams are active in germany asfter coming into the country disquised as refugees , wow really !! .

for me , the fact is that muslims cant intergrate fully with western society, i mean look what they are taught in their koran , such verses here - “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123 also here - Quran 8:59-60 / Quran 2:286 / Quran 3:147 / Quran 8:12 /

“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51

so there you have it in black and white, how to hell can these people fit in with us, i cannot see any solution to the problem.

merkel and co have only added to the problems .
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The contention that Muslims extremists and their sympathisers are small in number is erroneous. There are millions worldwide.
In mosques sexes are separated & we should follow likewise for all moslems. As moslems like mosque life.
Dieseldick - //“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51

so there you have it in black and white, how to hell can these people fit in with us, i cannot see any solution to the problem. //

Your argument depends on the (in my view incorrect) assumption that all Muslims read this text, and act upon it.

If Muslims were intend on taking over the world - as some would believe - do you not think it would have happened by now?

If the billions of Muslims really wanted to vaporise non-believers, would it not have happened?

In reality, what we have is a proportionately miniscule number of fanatics who generate an utterly disproportionately amount of media-driven fear around the world.

Issa have not even managed to take over one country - or come anywhere near to it. Right now they are fighting to hold control of odd cities here and there.

Do you really think they are a threat to world peace because of selected writings in the Koran?

Evidence suggests otherwise.
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The difference is we recognise that the Bible is a set of anecdotal observations intended as basic guidance only wheareas Muslims hang on every word of their Koran and their personal interpretation of it. The likes of Isil hide inside Islam pushing their own version of the teachings.
Andy by Naomi and her coterie I guess you mean those who have actually read and studied the koran. Your rudeness to naomi is breathtaking even more so coming from a mod. And it's also nasty IMO. And now ff has joined you and seems unable to post without having a dig at her as well. It is all deeply unpleasant and all credit to her for sticking to her guns and not retiring from the fray.
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Tamborine - I have listened to most of your link - I got bored after a while to be honest.

If more Muslims are having more children, and less Europeans are having less, than that is natural selection - not invasion.

I remember the government propaganda around HIV telling me that by the year 2000, everyone would know someone who was infected with HIV.

That was alarmist propaganda too - and it wasn't accurate, so I don't assume for a moment that the nonsense you posted will be either.
Ladybirder. Are you referring to me when you said " And now ff has joined you and seems unable to post without having a dig at her as well"?

I have hardly posted on this or any thread outside Crosswords in the last couple of days.
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This is Tamborine's link.

Sorry, Hypognosis. Cross posted.
Oh blimey another day of Muslim bashing with a good dose of I'm right your wrong chucked in for a helpful measure!!
Islay, fundamentalist Islam warrants 'bashing'.
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// When a message starts with "According to research ..." I am instantly wary. //

What would make you less wary, one that started with 'According to wild speculation....'?
// When a message starts with "According to research ..." I am instantly wary. //

What would make you less wary, one that started with 'According to wild speculation....'?
andy-hughes, If not by research how else are we to ascertain figures?
Ludiwg - In this case - it's the same thing!

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