Capital Punishment - Read on

[Drisgirl]

Grampian News has just headlined with the news that a man who has served 18 yrs in jail for murder has had his sentence quashed.New evidence has come to light along with the confession of a con.

Now where do the' hang em and flog em' brigade stand with this?

Do not forget this man is now innocent - end of.

[jno]

there are various arguments against capital punishment, but I believe that at the time it was abolished in Britain, this was the main one in the minds of its opponents: that the wrong people might be executed. There were several high-profile 1950s cases (the Timothy Evans and Derek Bentley ones in particular) in which this seemed to have happened. It's still just as powerful an argument, I believe. The innocent person hanged could be you or me.

[stevie_c2it]

Ya could�nae let it lie, could ya?
Ya could�nae just poke out yer tongue and leave it at that?
Ding ding round two.

Doh!

[lepers]

perhaps they should get 20yrs n if no one fesses up then its stretchy stretchy in the neck department :op

p.s. what about peado's who are 100% guilty n say if u let me out i'll do it again?

[Drisgirl]

Lepers - how do you know that some paedos and murderers etc are not just mad and confess to crimes they havent committed because they have a mental disorder.It has been known to happen.

Anyway you cant jail someone for twenty years 'just in case' fresh evidence comes up and if it doesnt then hang them.Bit like how you determine if someone is a witch!!

Stevie - notice you didnt have anything constructive to say - cat got your tonque? :)

[lepers]

yeh i was taking the p1ss with the 20 years comment hence the little face.

i think if people were actually using the death penalty it would be under extreme cicumstances where guilt was beyond all reasonable doubt. there are plenty of cases where this is true.

i don't anyone would say it should be used on every case but whats the point in keeping some of these people locked up? "ooohh they'll have to live with what they've done!", "oooh if u kill them ure no better than they are!" no gcse pse lesson arguements.

[{Dakota}]

Really sorry - unrelated to the Question - but are you and Stevie in Aberdeen??

[Drisgirl]

Sorry Lepers - not up on the funny face symbols - I'm stuck at the smile.

As I have said before you cannot differentiate between sentences.If someone is sentenced to life the judge cannot then hypothetically go on to say - beyond reasonable doubt so you are going to swing - then turn to the next one and say although I have given you life I'm not so sure so you will just get banged up.

Sorry didnt understand your last sentence - not up on GCSE's.

At the end of the day I was only illustrating a point which backs my personal stance on capital punishment.

[LATECOMER]

I was against hanging in the past but forensic science has moved on since Timothy Evans etc.... These days if you are found guilty then you pretty much are. Dead killers can never kill again, can they??? I would be prepared to take the risk because for all law abiding people the risk is minute. My own view is that hanging is barbaric, lethal injection is much kinder! Its very very simple to understand just abide by the law

[Drisgirl]

Dakota - I'm about an hour down the road but will be there for the Hogmanay street party again.Will be ace again this year.

Stevie - I think is from another planet:)

[lepers]

say u have 8 kiddies/grown ups who have all gone yeh that guy abused me when i was younger and the guy admits to doing it, and has been the case when due for parole claimed if freed he would commit the crime again.

tell me whats the point of keeping him locked up indefinately? just costs money and he has to be put in a special wing with special food, whats the point?

[{Dakota}]

Yay - I'm in City Centre, you montrose-ish?

I won't be in Aberdeen this year for Hogmany, do you know who's playing this year anyway?

[lepers]

note to latecomer: hanging is i believe a more humane way to kill someone if the nots done correctly as it snaps their neck immediately. with lethal injections there is apparently a lot more twitching and agonising as it stops their heart or whatever it does :o/

[lepers]

knot even . . .dammit

[Drisgirl]

Dakota - Berry Picking country - nr Perth.Its The Proclaimers The Coral and others who havent confirmed yet.Those 2 will do for me.cant wait.Booked in at The Copthorne again - fab just one street off Union St and just down the road from the casino - cannae wait!

[stevie_c2it]

Abe-ur-Deen? Me? Awa an bile yer heid, ya pair �o� Tumshie heided bampots! Niver!

[Drisgirl]

LATECOMER - The man I am talking about has spent the most effective constructive years of his life in jail - but he is still alive due to the fact we dont practice capital punishment in this country.He was law abiding.

Lepers - I know personally about paedos.If they were to say they would commit the same acts again then its a different ballgame - he would be sectioned and he would probably never leave Carstairs (akin to Broadstairs) as he is then deemed mentally ill.

Now this is possibly going off thread a bit - but do you kill people who mentally are not aware of their actions.I despise kiddie fiddlers with a passion but a mental hospital or segregation for life is better.Killing them wouldnt work because they dont have the mental capacity to care.

[Drisgirl]

Obv been on the phone to one of your Scottish pals for that Stevie - sorry meant your one Scottish pal - LOL

[lepers]

well if they don't care, whats the point of keeping them alive? u don't keep alive a dog with rabies

[Drisgirl]

Surely lepers that justifies my point there is no deterrent to someone with a mental disorder.So effectively there is no point in capital punishment.

[lepers]

i'm not saying it should b used as a deterent, it'd be used that rarely, but as a means of thinning out the prison population a bit then it'd work