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"I do recall the first vote being some what of a "lets just see" vote."
:-D So hoping to change the history books, eh ? ;-)
Sorry but we were all there and know that wasn't so.
Gary Lineker seems to have become the new Abu Hamza of the News section :-)
As a remain voter i would like to disassociate myself from Mr Lineker's point of view.

He has a whiff of the David Ickes about him at times.
But he was a footballer known for his goal-hanging; not for his right hook.
There does seem to be a democracy deficit with remainers.

The question of our leaving has been done. We voted to leave and leave we must. Or democracy would be defunct.

So any potential new referendum would be:
1. Do you accept the terms of the deal the EU are willing to give? Yes - No

There is no, yes (go for it) or No we stay in.
Trouble is OG his been hanging around to long now!
// David Cameron said “This is not a debate between politicians. It’s a debate for the whole of the country to get involved in and to make their decision. It’s a very simple question on the ballot paper. You either remain in the European Union or you leave the European Union. It’s a single decision, it’s a final decision.” //

Ah, yes, a solid and definitive statement from David "I won't resign after the EU referendum" Cameron...
AOG, I stumbled across a comment you made back in 2010 in a thread by Modeller on 'referendums':

'Whenever have you known any political part to stick to their referendums?
And if they only represented the views of the majority, then that would be democracy, and we can't have that can we?

Very prophetic!
If it is more important to Mr Linekar perhaps he would do the decent thing and resign his vastly overpaid tax payer job with the BBC to concentrate on Brexit.

It is his job with the tax payer funded BBC which in my opinion is why he should shut up. He is quite entitled to an opinion but not to platform it when he is being paid vast sums by the public purse.
/// As a remain voter i would like to disassociate myself from Mr Lineker's point of view. ///

Me too.

The likes of Lineker and others who command an audience because of subjects well outside Brexit should not use this outlet to pronounce on subjects about which they know no more (and probably much less) than all the people who contribute to AB.
Lets have our own referendum right now.
Question is, " Should Lineker be paid £1.25m a year of license payers money? If not, how much should he be paid?"

My answer is NO and £250,000
So who would pay him to pontificate on the BBC?
Almost everything means more to me than football
Most of the people who voted for Brexit were/are short-sighted Little Englanders who read the Daily Mail etc. I've never liked Gary Lineker but, for once, I agree with him. More power to his elbow.
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/// AOG, I stumbled across a comment you made back in 2010 in a thread by Modeller on 'referendums': ///

Seeing that you took the trouble to 'stumble' across an eight year old thread, perhaps you will now take the lesser trouble, and supply all of us with the link to that thread.



Remainers - Don't you like democracy? The EU don't do they?
Jim at 12:31, irrelevant.... but don’t let that stop you sidelining and purposefully undermining the basis upon which the electorate voted. Whichever way you would like to spin it, that’s what the electorate was promised.
Brexit means erm .... Breakfast?
"There is no, yes (go for it) or No we stay in."

There most certainly is not. It'd be a bad idea to have a second referendum anyway since we've already given the go-ahead to go; it's now up to those we've elected to do their job.

If we were mad enough to hold a second referendum (God forbid) then 'stay in' is clearly not an option. That question has already been decided and only remoaners would want to overthrow the decision and throw us down into the depths of the mire, just to satisfy a desire to thwart a decision they didn't like. We must never allow that sort of petty behaviour to be given an option. (Bad enough they'd likely vote for a bad deal rather than no deal, and leave us neither fully in nor out but in limbo, still under EU control; as May seems to want.)

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