Enter Nigel Farage, Stage Right. ?

[Khandro]

With Labour a complete shambles, isn't it time for Nigel Farage to return to the fray?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/846995/Nigel-Farage-Labour-Ukip-revival-Corbyn-Brexit-U-turn-EU

[youngmafbog]

At present he has little else to believe in.

Despite his howls of the Tories ripping themselves apart over the EU it is Labour that are doing it.

They are playing a dangerous game for the party. Being so blinkered by extreme left wing ideologies they are once again failing to listen to the voters. Will UKIP win a seat? Maybe not Mickey but they dont need to, moving just a few votes from labour could change the dynamic of a constituency such they loose it to the Tories or SNP or anyone else.
May also needs to be careful or the same could happen to her.

[cassa333]

UKIP have proved you don't need to have a multitude of sitting MPs to achieve your political aims.

Mikey and his Labour supporters can bleat on about UKIP being defunct and dead in the water all they like.

As has been evidenced, you can give the establishment (of any party) a bloody nose without having to be in the den.

Labour got a good result because May miss judged her campaign... (amongst other this she told a few truths about what was sustainable) but as has been said on this thread already Corbyn promised pie in the sky sweeteners to whom ever he thought he could get a vote from.

Far from being frightened into voting out a lot of people came up with the idea that leaving was the best option because of the things they could see were happening.

There will always be wild reporting and you will get a proportion that will believe that. If you want to look at samples then 'project fear' is a prime example. It is still going on but most people have woken up to it.

Until Labour are truthful they are effectively dead in the water because no one bar idiots will believe them.

[ichkeria]

A 'u turn' on Europe is a smart move on labour's part as most of labour's new younger voters think Corbyn is pro-EU for some reason.
And this 'u turn' will end up being negotiated by the tories too
If Farage wants to come back to lead ukip's own particular shambles then best of luck to him

[Kromovaracun]

It's hard to see what would be in it for Farage. He resigned immediately after the referendum and managed to do so looking very statesman-like, basking in "his" victory. More importantly, he also knew what would happen in his party after its main reason for existence had been fulfill and has ably distanced himself from it.

He probably has more influence where he is now than if he were to start leading a party again.

[Peter Pedant]

is it time for Nigel Farage to return to the fray?


yeaaaaah !

[Peter Pedant]

// Despite his howls of the Tories ripping themselves apart over the EU it is Labour that are doing it. //

oh come on dimwits - brexit is a cross party matter
how many years has it taken for you to realise that ?

( never - in some clearly )

[Peter Pedant]

oh another brexit thead !
how I love them

new ideas every day !

[Khandro]

ichi; //A 'u turn' on Europe is a smart move on labour's part...//

Then why is the "huge backlash" happening? I think you might be on your own with that one.

[Zacs-Master]

I think you mean 'why DID the moderate backlash happen'.

[gulliver1]

09.48 " One thing you must never do in politics is lie ".
you should have said that to Boris when he steered his lie bus ,
during the build up to Brexit, eh!

[Spicerack]

You're too clever for us, Gulliver.

[youngmafbog]

Well surely your (and your comrades) continual harping on this proves the point?

[youngmafbog]

Anything to say on the OP Gulli? In your rush to slam the Tories you seem to have forgotten it.

[cassa333]

Is that the bus that said xx zillion £ would or could go on the NHS?

I never believed that in the first place. Partly because the NHS is awash with money they just mismanage it.

But mainly because it always seemed t me to be nothing more than 'we will have xx zillion to spend on what is important to us.

If they had all been exactly truethful I believe it would still have been the same result because remain could not find very much to be positive about the EU.

What the Remainers seem to be saying though is that one bus had more impact than project fear did in its entirety and I don't think that is the case.

[Kathyan]

The exact wording on the bus was 'We send the EU £350 million a week, let's fund our NHS instead'. How this came to be made out to be a promise is beyond me (the word promise wasn't used) and in any case they couldn't promise anything as they weren't a political party!

[ichkeria]

All Labour are doing is saying Brexit needs to be done gradually.
This is precisely what the Tory govt will end up doing too,.
None of this has anything to do with Nigel Farage, except in the fevered imagination of the Daily Express.

[david small]

Our Nige is fed up to the back teeth with the lot of us. I don't blame him. As my old gaffer used to say "let em rot"

[Khandro]

ichi;//All Labour are doing is saying Brexit needs to be done gradually.//

No, "all labour is doing" is trying to capitalise on the situation for it's own misguided ends and doesn't care for the outcome, but by listening to the trade unions and it's own hard left it is misreading the mood of the country and will pay the price for it.

[ichkeria]

Not just the fevered imagination of the Express but old madame Hoey herself
“Perhaps, you never know, Nigel Farage could come back and there could be a revived Ukip and Labour will have done something which was not necessary.”
and um you know well ... :-)
It isn't only a few of the Corbynites who are a dead loss :-)

[EDDIE51]

Labour are stronger than they have been for decades! It is UKIP who are lost !
Even a lot of the Tory party are saying that Labour has a better idea than their own 'leader'.