Kensington Resident Says She Will Leave

[trt]

if the Grefell victims move in to her building.

Cant say I blame her, the properties will devalue enormously.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4633644/Kensington-resident-away-Grenfell-victims.html

[Sqad]

Kromo:
I respect your view on sympathy for Donna's plight, but I do not agree with you. I do not know her financial position, mortgage etc, and she may have made other sacrifices to live in her place of choice....where she lives and to a certain extent choice the type of person that she would find appropriate to call her "neighbours" Her choice which may not be your choice.

However,,,I do agree that the people of that terrible inferno do need emergency care...........but not in my block of flats.

[Peter Pedant]

well I have to say that when a landlord cleaned up two bawdy houses down the road
the av price of ours went up £20 000 and we were very grateful ....

( dunno what happened to the Thai ladyboys tho')

[Mamyalynne]

Seems a lot of the information being given out is misleading, certainly to me.

//What are these homes?

The first thing to recognise is that these are not luxury homes that are being re-purposed especially to help ex Grenfell residents, but unfurnished social housing.

Social housing is specially built to be let out by housing associations at below-market rents to people with low incomes.

Housing associations are not-for-profit companies and charities whose function is to provide housing for the less well-off.//

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/grenfell-tower-kensington-row-government-luxury-flats-survivors-disaster-a7803356.html

[pastafreak]

Has anyone entertained the thought that the Grenfel residents may not *want* to be placed in or near others who do not want them or who are of a higher( though not necessarily better) social status?
All some can think about is their precious property values. Well...people like the Grenfel residents would have been placed there anyway. It may as well be those who need it most.

[Gromit]

The only reason those flats got planning permission was because the developer agreed that 25% of the housing was designated for social housing.

If someone now wants to leave because that 25% quota has now been filled, then they have only themselves to blame. If they had done their due diligence before buying, they would have known that a quarter of the site was earmarked for less well off tenents. And the deal is not unusual, most new development contains a social housing aspectto get planning permission.
They will probably lose lots of money, so the story does have a good conclusion.

[albaqwerty]

haven't read the link but I think she's an ignorant, arrogant piece of work.

If her block of flats had burnt down, wonder what she'd have to say on the subject.

These folk need help and much quicker than the 'posh' council provided

[zebo]

" Being rich does not mean you work harder than anyone else, if anything it's just an advantage of whatever profession you have chosen to work in. " This reminds me of a neighbour who told my mother that I was 'very lucky' to have got into Teacher Training College, my mother put her right that when her daughter had been hanging round street corners I was working into the small hours for my exams. We had both been at the Grammar school, before I'm beaten by that whip too. For many of us our life style is determined by our hard work and our choices regarding how we handle the money we earn.

[Sqad]

Gromit........would you please enlighten me.....are you saying in your above post,14.39 that the block of flats were given planning permission and built on the proviso that part would be luxury flats and part basic flats for "social housing?"

If so, then that is a bizarre set of conditions.

[ladybirder]

On the contrary squad, it is quite usual, over a certain amount of flats. It's a sort of bribe the developers have to pay to get permission if you like.

[Sqad]

ladybird....right....I have never come across that before.
So if you want to live in an "upmarket" apartment block, one has to take the rough with the smooth.
Is that just in London?

[ladybirder]

No, lots here in Brighton, in fact all over the country I believe.

[Sqad]

Ladybird......right.

[ummmm]

It's all over the country. Flats and houses.

Sqad...why are you looking down on council tenants?

[Mamyalynne]

AS LB has stated it can be a requirement to obtain planning.

//Under Section 106 of the 1990 Town and Country Planning Act, councils can require developers to commit to provide a certain amount of social housing in any new private residential development (or alternatively pay a sum of money to the local authority for investment in social housing elsewhere) as a condition for the granting of approval.//


The Independent article I linked to above gives a good overall explanation minus the huge sofas and super king bed pictures.

[Sqad]

ummmm
"Sqad...why are you looking down on council tenants?"
Well you have answered your own question, reiterating many times in posts..."sqad is a snob"
Doesn't that answer your question.
To put a bit more flesh onto my answer,in the majority of cases, in my experience,the quality and conduct of life is not compatible with my ideas of how is see acceptable behavior and standard of personal conduct.

[hc4361]

Sqad, as I said earlier, the social housing flats have different entrances to the luxury apartments. This is a very common set up in London new build blocks and the super rich aren't inconvenienced in any way by the social housing.

The social housing flats are nothing like the luxury apartments.

[Sqad]

h.c OK.
So which parts of these "luxurious blocks" are going to be given to the victims of the fire.....the luxury part OR the social housing part and if it is the latter, then why were they vacant in the first place?

[ummmm]

I wouldn't know, Sqad, I don't live in a council area.

[gness]

I've thought many times how lucky I am not to be in a situation like this......escaping from a terrible fire...to be homeless and owning nothing at all.....
But then to be given a home close to dreadful Donna...well that would be the last straw...

Still, if Donna can't sell her flat...and she will if she wants to, she's making something out of nothing....she may just make some nice, new friends......jolly her up a bit.....x

[Mamyalynne]

Sqad, it's in the article I linked to - the social housing was due to be ready Oct/Nov, now they will be ready end of July.