General Election: Theresa May Denies Social Care U-Turn

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40001221

But this new announcement by the Tories is at odds with what Mrs May and her Ministers have been saying for days.

[mikey4444]

Its been over a years since I had a Jelberts....I can taste it now !

[Old_Geezer]

...SO MUCH SUPPORT...
>:-(

[DTCwordfan]

big tub, two wafers and clotted cream on top......

[mikey4444]

Jelberts....the second best ice cream in Britain !

[anneasquith]

" refashioning the policy" worthy of a trumpism.

[DTCwordfan]

how about a Putinism, anne? Both of them can then 'influence' our election.

"The task of the government is not only to pour honey into a cup, but sometimes to give bitter medicine."

[douglas9401]

I agree with anneasquith, bigly.

[naomi24]

Oh do stop getting so excited! Take the time to think about what’s being said here.

The BBC link says: //Plans to make people receiving care at home liable for the full costs if they are worth at least £100,000 have proved controversial since they were announced on Thursday.//

… but there was never any suggestion of people with assets worth over £100,000 having to pay the full cost of care. Still, full marks to the BBC for trying. Par for the course. Eddie said yesterday that some property is worth very little, and that’s true, so say, for example, a house is worth £120,000, then regardless of the cost of the care only £20,000 will be taken. There simply isn't sufficient money in the estate to pay more. For those with assets of less than £100,000, there will be no charge whatsoever - so that'll will be an improvement on the current system. Mrs May is now saying that there will be an absolute limit on care charges, and surely that’s a good thing, isn’t it?

Abandoning the policy would be a u-turn. Modifying it is not.

Sorry to spoil your fun with a dose of reality. Carry on.

[emmie]

better to u turn now than after the election.

[EDDIE51]

May's ministers trying to wriggle their way out of this one by running away from the TV reporter on BBC news remind me of the White House staff running around in panic as Trump comes up with yet more 'fake news'!

[Kromovaracun]

Naomi, the Health Secretary last week explicitly ruled out that there would be a cap on social care costs. In no uncertain terms. The same is true for the original draft of the Tory manifesto. They said there wouldn't be a cap.

Now, all of a sudden, May has announced one but cannot even say what the cap will be.

If that's not a u-turn I don't know what is.

[emmie]

wonder what Mrs May will come out like against Andrew Neil on BBC1 now.

[mikey4444]

Its nice to know that the BBC, Daily Mail, Telegraph and the Evening Standard have all got it wrong and this isn't a U-turn after all..........what a relief !

[Kromovaracun]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dementia-tax-u-turn-theresa-may-explained-jeremy-hunt-jeremy-hunt-care-cap-level-a7749191.html

Here is a recording of him doing it.

[mikey4444]

Kromo ......"what webs we weave when we practice to deceive"

[maggiebee]

This woman's definitely for turning!

[Kromovaracun]

I'm amazed that this "strong and stable" baloney apparently seems to be completely consistent with re-writing your key manifesto pledges as you go.

What a joke.

[EDDIE51]

^Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
I think that's the correct quote mikey ! It fits Mrs May and the rest of the Tory elite perfectly ! They can't even tell the same lie twice!

[Islay]

Tell me Eddie and Mikey, do Labour never lie or do U turns?

[Old_Geezer]

My understanding was thst the full cost of care would come out of your estate except if that would leave you less than £100k then they'd reduce the bill to leave your estate that much. This was in place of putting a specific cap on what you pay, and would charge for help in your own home too.

Now they are considering a cap, and given the complexity of trying to amalgamate both systems it is likely to be an alternative policy option rather than an addition.

Of course the correct course of action is to accept such care is a health issue that we already should cover from the public purse. So we are still a long way from the ideal policy.