Should Nhs Hospitals Collude With Ambulance-Chasing Lawyers?

[youngmafbog]

Now there needs to be some redress for negligence but with Ambulance-chasing lawyers costing the service £440 million a year with some hospitals even renting the pond life office space is enough enough?

[Zacs-Master]

'collude' is open to interpretation. Could you be more specific?

[woofgang]

ZM its the daily mail yet again

[Buenchico]

Youngmafbog seems to have omitted his Daily Wail link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4086018/Kick-hospital-blood-suckers-demands-NHS-Boss-Laywers-tout-business-hospitals-cost-440m-year-15-000-nurses.html

[Zacs-Master]

Oh I see. Should have known.

[youngmafbog]

You should have known what?

Yes I forgot the link 1,000 apologies for such a mortal sin, but you know what the clue was still in the question "with some hospitals even renting the pond life office space".

[woofgang]

well...point one is that they lawyers or the public won’t get a penny out of the NHS unless the NHS screws up.....al the NHS have to do is not screw up and charge the lawyers for the space they rent to them and they will be quids in.

[Zacs-Master]

The word 'even' suggested that there may be more than one element of collusion.

[anneasquith]

The tragedy is so many errors being made by the NHS. No errors, no lawyers required.

[sunny-dave]

These lawyers are a deeply corrosive influence on the NHS.

Most people just want an independent investigation and then an apology if appropriate.

The NHS used to have very good systems (at least in my area) for doing this - and clinical practice was improved as a result of open and honest investigations.

But as soon as the lawyers became involved, we had no choice but to pull the plug on our own investigations and clam up tight - our own lawyers insisted on that - which was deeply unsatisfactory and potentially dangerous if it then took years for the reasons for errors to be determined in the courts.

Yes, people need answers and (if appropriate) compensation - but an adversarial legal process is not the way to do it - the main beneficiaries are (as so often) leeches from the fringes of the legal profession.

[Sqad]

Dave

-\\\ the main beneficiaries are (as so often) leeches from the fringes of the legal profession.\\
and the Consultants who can earn up to in excess of £200,000 in medical reports on top of their NHS and private practices salaries.

Medical negligence has to be compensated.

[ToraToraTora]

bl00dsuck1ing lowlives.

[Sqad]

TTT

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To whom are you referring? The doctors, the lawyers or indeed the patients themselves?
One isn't forced to take legal action against the hospital or staff.

[ToraToraTora]

lawyers.

[Sqad]

TTT...OK so to whom would you go for advice if you felt that your treatment had been negligent?
Lawyers.

[youngmafbog]

So what you seem to be implying then sqad(and others) is that the NHS is a total and utter shambles and so should be closed given the huge payments out of it?

[mikey4444]

I am with YMB here. Leaving some leaflets around a Hospital is one thing but allowing them easy access to the patients themselves, especially when those patients are not at their best is just not acceptable.

Or legal come to that....do Hospitals really allow Solicitors such easy to access to Wards....seems unbelievable !

[Sqad]

mikey...nobody is suggesting that solicitors have access to WARDS, what the solicitors do provide is legal advice within the hospital environment, for which they pay and money directed to hospital needs..

YMB no! no! no! nobody has suggested that the NHS is a "total and utter shambles"....it needs some reorganization, but still plays a major part of healthcare in the United Kingdom.

[mikey4444]

Sqad.....I recall this issue being discussed on the Today Program recently, and people were saying that when they came to visit their relatives, they found these Solicitors sitting at the bedside.

[Peter Pedant]

no
being a landlord is not collusion
even in TMF speak

should an organisation pay attention to the tenants purpose ?

no - money is money and we are letting to get money so let us go for the greatest rent per sq ft

or yes - when the royal college of anaesthetists let scaffolding advert space I was keen that they shouldnt let to a private abortion clinic ( none in fact applied) - someone said " well what about wonderbra ? " - and I said o my god they are gonna say look at the tots outside and there are even bigger tots inside ! ( wonderbra didnt apply )

I dont see this as a great news item

[Sqad]

mikey

Did they?

But surely the patient or relative would have approached the solicitor FIRST in the office outside the ward and then interviews followed within the ward......just a feeling i have.

The solicitors only advance at the behest of the complainer.