Connections Puzzle #328 Sat 4 May
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Now, Who's Fault Is All This?
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1/ The young man resisting arrest?
2/ Overzealous police officers, trying to rescue a damsel in distress?
3/ An ungrateful damsel?
Or should the police officers have stood back and see how serious the argument got between a young man and his girlfriend.
1/ The young man resisting arrest?
2/ Overzealous police officers, trying to rescue a damsel in distress?
3/ An ungrateful damsel?
Or should the police officers have stood back and see how serious the argument got between a young man and his girlfriend.
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Tamborine - “He spits at 1.40 on vid”
Well spotted. He certainly did – quite clearly.
Having been a police officer, I've been spat at and on in the past and to say it's unpleasant is quite the understatement. They didn't have spit-hoods when I was in the force but I wish they had. In my opinion, this chap deserved being treated in the manner he was as he is clearly a thoroughly unpleasant individual. His girlfriend is, unfortunately, a stereotypical gobby piece of work. What a pair they are. It would appear that they deserve one another.
Well spotted. He certainly did – quite clearly.
Having been a police officer, I've been spat at and on in the past and to say it's unpleasant is quite the understatement. They didn't have spit-hoods when I was in the force but I wish they had. In my opinion, this chap deserved being treated in the manner he was as he is clearly a thoroughly unpleasant individual. His girlfriend is, unfortunately, a stereotypical gobby piece of work. What a pair they are. It would appear that they deserve one another.
Who knows, I wasn't there - you'd need to be there as a witness to be able to answer that question properly AOG.
It all looked survivable. At least this wasn't America where police will pin suspects to the ground and beat them up while shouting "stop resisting" sometimes resulting in gunshot from the police.
It all looked survivable. At least this wasn't America where police will pin suspects to the ground and beat them up while shouting "stop resisting" sometimes resulting in gunshot from the police.
Answerprancer - “... Nice one Birdy, I'm glad you're not still a police officer with a "judge jury and executioner" attitude like that...”
I wonder, would you like to spat on? Is that something you think you would enjoy whilst at work?
As for me endorsing a “'judge jury and executioner' attitude” nothing could be further from the truth. The police officers making the arrest didn't judge him nor execute him. What they did was arrest a member of public who was apparently committing a public order offence. During the arrest, the alleged offender spat at one of the arresting officers. As a result a spit-hood was placed on the alleged offenders head. There is no “judge jury and executioner” principal at work here.
Please explain how the above actions can be said to have been excessive?
I wonder, would you like to spat on? Is that something you think you would enjoy whilst at work?
As for me endorsing a “'judge jury and executioner' attitude” nothing could be further from the truth. The police officers making the arrest didn't judge him nor execute him. What they did was arrest a member of public who was apparently committing a public order offence. During the arrest, the alleged offender spat at one of the arresting officers. As a result a spit-hood was placed on the alleged offenders head. There is no “judge jury and executioner” principal at work here.
Please explain how the above actions can be said to have been excessive?
No it wasn't meant as either cheap, personal or insulting.
Let me pick what I said apart:
By "judge jury and executioner" that was in response to your comments:
"he is clearly a thoroughly unpleasant individual" and "His girlfriend is, unfortunately, a stereotypical gobby piece of work" when you don't know the full story. Everyone is capable of being obnoxious from time to time, we all lose it now and then.
What's to say this wasn't just a one-off moment for a pair who are usually perfectly pleasant people?
At that moment, restraint looked to me appropriate as well as the use of the spit-hood.
Let me pick what I said apart:
By "judge jury and executioner" that was in response to your comments:
"he is clearly a thoroughly unpleasant individual" and "His girlfriend is, unfortunately, a stereotypical gobby piece of work" when you don't know the full story. Everyone is capable of being obnoxious from time to time, we all lose it now and then.
What's to say this wasn't just a one-off moment for a pair who are usually perfectly pleasant people?
At that moment, restraint looked to me appropriate as well as the use of the spit-hood.
AP - “... Let me pick what I said apart:...”
Yes, lets. That should be fun.
AP - “... By "judge jury and executioner" that was in response to your comments: "he is clearly a thoroughly unpleasant individual..."
Yes. He is. He spits at people. In this specific case, the police. I don't know about you but it has never once, in my entire life, occurred to me to spit at another person. I therefore stand by my assertion that he is, “a thoroughly unpleasant individual”. If you think that spitting at another person is acceptable, then please explain your reasoning.
AP - “... "His girlfriend is, unfortunately, a stereotypical gobby piece of work" when you don't know the full story...”
Correct. I do not know the “full story”. I was not there and neither were you. What I do know is that from the video she is screaming at the police, “He's done nothing wrong. He's done nothing wrong [0:55 – 0:59]” even though we now know he spits at police and was acting so objectionably that he was arrested.
AP - “... Everyone is capable of being obnoxious from time to time, we all lose it now and then...”
Speak for yourself. I have never in my entire life spat at someone. I have never “lost it” to that degree. It seems to me that you are projecting somewhat.
AP - “... What's to say this wasn't just a one-off moment for a pair who are usually perfectly pleasant people?”
And I can see a pig flying past my window right now. Live in a fantasy world if you like. The rest of us shall continue to live the real world where unpleasant people get arrested and charged.
Your accusation that I am somehow, “judge jury and executioner”, on this matter has no merit, as evidenced by my above response. Not a single word I have written warrants such an accusation. If you are a morally decent person you will withdrawn the accusation and apologise.
Yes, lets. That should be fun.
AP - “... By "judge jury and executioner" that was in response to your comments: "he is clearly a thoroughly unpleasant individual..."
Yes. He is. He spits at people. In this specific case, the police. I don't know about you but it has never once, in my entire life, occurred to me to spit at another person. I therefore stand by my assertion that he is, “a thoroughly unpleasant individual”. If you think that spitting at another person is acceptable, then please explain your reasoning.
AP - “... "His girlfriend is, unfortunately, a stereotypical gobby piece of work" when you don't know the full story...”
Correct. I do not know the “full story”. I was not there and neither were you. What I do know is that from the video she is screaming at the police, “He's done nothing wrong. He's done nothing wrong [0:55 – 0:59]” even though we now know he spits at police and was acting so objectionably that he was arrested.
AP - “... Everyone is capable of being obnoxious from time to time, we all lose it now and then...”
Speak for yourself. I have never in my entire life spat at someone. I have never “lost it” to that degree. It seems to me that you are projecting somewhat.
AP - “... What's to say this wasn't just a one-off moment for a pair who are usually perfectly pleasant people?”
And I can see a pig flying past my window right now. Live in a fantasy world if you like. The rest of us shall continue to live the real world where unpleasant people get arrested and charged.
Your accusation that I am somehow, “judge jury and executioner”, on this matter has no merit, as evidenced by my above response. Not a single word I have written warrants such an accusation. If you are a morally decent person you will withdrawn the accusation and apologise.
"If you are a morally decent person you will withdrawn the accusation and apologise".
If you are a balanced and rational person you will accept that you are not infallible and accept that you may just be wrong (just as I do).
Balanced and rational people don't continue debates with statements like:
"Yes, lets. That should be fun".
Ok let's take it apart further:
"Yes. He is. He spits at people". SPAT at people, by saying "spits" you assume this is something he does regularly.
"If you think that spitting at another person is acceptable, then please explain your reasoning". Why would you assume that about me? WHO would think that is acceptable? I don't, see the comment above.
"Correct. I do not know the “full story”. I was not there and neither were you. What I do know is that from the video she is screaming at the police, “He's done nothing wrong. He's done nothing wrong [0:55 – 0:59]”
Neither you nor I know what happened before that video was started. Perhaps before he had spat at the police he really hadn't done anything wrong, it happens.
AP - “... Everyone is capable of being obnoxious from time to time, we all lose it now and then...”
"Speak for yourself" ..get real, are you saying that you've never misbehaved ...ever?
"And I can see a pig flying past my window right now. Live in a fantasy world if you like. The rest of us shall continue to live the real world where unpleasant people get arrested and charged".
You are the one who is living in a "fantasy world" IMO if you assume someone is "unpleasant" based on one misdemeanor.
"Your accusation that I am somehow, “judge jury and executioner”, on this matter has no merit, as evidenced by my above response".
This is not "evidence", it's your opinion just as mine is mine.
If you are a balanced and rational person you will accept that you are not infallible and accept that you may just be wrong (just as I do).
Balanced and rational people don't continue debates with statements like:
"Yes, lets. That should be fun".
Ok let's take it apart further:
"Yes. He is. He spits at people". SPAT at people, by saying "spits" you assume this is something he does regularly.
"If you think that spitting at another person is acceptable, then please explain your reasoning". Why would you assume that about me? WHO would think that is acceptable? I don't, see the comment above.
"Correct. I do not know the “full story”. I was not there and neither were you. What I do know is that from the video she is screaming at the police, “He's done nothing wrong. He's done nothing wrong [0:55 – 0:59]”
Neither you nor I know what happened before that video was started. Perhaps before he had spat at the police he really hadn't done anything wrong, it happens.
AP - “... Everyone is capable of being obnoxious from time to time, we all lose it now and then...”
"Speak for yourself" ..get real, are you saying that you've never misbehaved ...ever?
"And I can see a pig flying past my window right now. Live in a fantasy world if you like. The rest of us shall continue to live the real world where unpleasant people get arrested and charged".
You are the one who is living in a "fantasy world" IMO if you assume someone is "unpleasant" based on one misdemeanor.
"Your accusation that I am somehow, “judge jury and executioner”, on this matter has no merit, as evidenced by my above response".
This is not "evidence", it's your opinion just as mine is mine.
AP
Compose yourself. Your above post is all over the place.
AP - “...This is not "evidence", it's your opinion just as mine is mine...”
Precisely. We are dealing with opinion – yet you have accused me of attempting to be judge and jury. I have done no such thing. I have offered an opinion. All I am asking from you is an acknowledgement that you were incorrect in accusing me of being “judge and jury”. That's all.
A simple sorry will do it.
Compose yourself. Your above post is all over the place.
AP - “...This is not "evidence", it's your opinion just as mine is mine...”
Precisely. We are dealing with opinion – yet you have accused me of attempting to be judge and jury. I have done no such thing. I have offered an opinion. All I am asking from you is an acknowledgement that you were incorrect in accusing me of being “judge and jury”. That's all.
A simple sorry will do it.
