The Thin End Of The Wedge?

[Khandro]

Here we go, the Muslim agenda commences;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/body-shaming-adverts-banned-london-transport-tube-sadiq-khan-a7079591.html

[-Talbot-]

-Talbot- what has Sheldon Cooper got to do with it?



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either both or neither have a look that says "I'm sexually available."

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Oh, in answer to your question - yeah, I'm a Muslim. ///

Ah! That indeed explains a lot, I must remember to take this into consideration, the next time you spring to the defence of Islam, whenever that religion comes up for criticism.

But what I must ask now is "why as a gay person, can you follow a religion that is opposed so much to homosexuality, as Islam is"?

[jambutty]

All I thought when I saw the ad for the first time was wow, I wish I looked like that. In no way did I think it was wrong to show her! Khan should keep his nose out! Aren't there far more important things to be dealt with?

[Khandro]

Talbot; Intrigued by the new avatar, it's Ayaan Hirsi Ali isn't it? - great woman.

[sp1814]

AOG

Oh, I'm not gay. I just say that for attention.

So to summarise. I'm Muslim, not gay, and I vote Green.

Oh, and I'm disabled and from Sydney Australia.

And finally, I build and maintain gyroscopes for a living.

Please choose which of these 'facts' you need to stop asking dumbass questions.

[sp1814]

By the way, I never spring to the defence of Islam.

Not once have I done this.

I am constantly disagreeing with you, because I think you have certain attitudes that demand challenging - but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm defending Islam.

I challenge you on all the minorities you don't like.

Attack and defence are not binary.

An analogy:

If you said that West Ham supporters should be banned from all UK grounds because of the number of hooligans in their midst, and I challenged you by saying, "That surely isn't fair - look at the number of Chelsea hooligans there are...why don't you call for a ban on them?"

In that example, I'm not defending West Ham. I'm challenging your position.

Go on - look through our debates. You will NEVER see me defending Islam, because I'm ambivalent towards all religions.

When, however - people suggest that people like Sadiq Khan cannot be trusted simply because he is Muslim, then yeah - I will defend him, because he seems like a good guy. That's is defence of an individual...not of Islam.

I hope that clarifies my position.

For the umpteenth time.

[Bazile]

just an aside .

I recall years ago asking sp1814 if he was gay .
I beleive that was the first instant that he confirmed on here that he was indeed gay .

Someone , at the time lambasted me for asking him the question .

You may ask - what has that got to do with this debate .
My answer is , nothing - it just came across my mind , just

[Ellipsis]

> I challenge you on all the minorities you don't like.

And I challenge you on some of the minorities you don't like. :)

Like, for example, fit, healthy, young people who aspire to be "beach body ready".

[Khandro]

So sp, you are saying you tell fibs about your sexuality for attention (but who cares?) and you defend all minorities, simply because they are minorities?
It doesn't sound like a very rational stance to me.

[douglas9401]

Nice to see 'hate' put on the back burner for a while. 'Shame' deserves it's place in buzzword land.

Can Mayor Khan now address the ads for Pringles, Mars Bars, Red Bull, Steakbakes etc etc?
Now there's a health issue worth getting in a lather about.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

You missed a couple out:

You live in cloud cuckoo land, and you tend to tell 'porkies'.

The latter is very surprising for a Muslim, the association with pork I mean, and not the ability to stretch the truth.

[Islay]

Hey SP now anotheoldgit knows your muslim he may stop talking to you - he did to me when he found out I wasn't born in this country of his!

[Bazile]

aog / islay
erm - i beleive sp1814 post was in jest - don't you ?

[anotheoldgit]

Islay

/// Hey SP now anotheoldgit knows your muslim he may stop talking to you - he did to me when he found out I wasn't born in this country of his! ///

For your information we don't 'TALK' to each other, we just our fingers to 'TYPE'.

Anyway you recently told me to "give it a rest" and being the host that you have admitted I am, i.e. (I wasn't born in this country of his!) I never like to go against my guests wishes.

[anotheoldgit]

Bazile

/// i beleive sp1814 post was in jest - don't you ? ///

Then are we to believe in nothing of what SP says?

[EcclesCake]

^^^ Priceless.

[ummmm]

Except you just did, AOG...

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Except you just did, AOG... ///

It was only Islay who told me to "Give it a Rest", only later to state that "I never speak to her", so it would have been rude to ignore her then, wouldn't it?

[Mamyalynne]

It's a bit like entering the Twilight Zone today.

[vetuste_ennemi]

A chance for some you to sneer. Time will tell if I or the sneerers are right.

VE's predictions for the next four years:

1. Plans for new super-Mosque approved in East London.

2. Pork removed from school meals where it has not already been so (if there are any such). Justified on grounds of expense.

3. More sexually segregated meetings. This won't be "imposed"; it will be out of "respect" for the sisters who of course will "choose" to take the side entrance and sit together.

4. Banning of dogs from certain public spaces. This will be justified on health grounds. Some of you not know that Islam doesn't like dogs? Yup, dogs are ritually unclean like pigs and faeces.

5. More swimming pools having women only days. Yes, yes, this is more "respect" for the sisters.

6. More funding for "social cohesion" groups (will consist of "community spokesmen" and the like) and toothless deradicalisation programmes to be drawn up by Khan's mates in the British Council of Muslims.

7. Dance, drama and music removed from some school curriculums.
Nativity plays banned where they aren't already.

8. "Offensive" ads banned near mosques.