The Thin End Of The Wedge?

[Khandro]

Here we go, the Muslim agenda commences;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/body-shaming-adverts-banned-london-transport-tube-sadiq-khan-a7079591.html

[Togo]

Don't know about the thin end of the wedge,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but what about the wedge end of the thin?

[Ellipsis]

> Like I said....beachwear, underwear...fine. Not slimming products.

"Adverts which make people feel ashamed of their bodies or pressured into looking a certain way" implies that the exact same ad would be a problem whether it was for a bikini, a gym or a "meal replacement or supplement" - it's the way the model looks that's the issue.

[ummmm]

I don't agree. An advert for a gym encourages people to get fit. An advert for slimming pills encourages people to try to take a short cut.

[Ellipsis]

It's not a slimming pill.

[naomi24]

I agree with Ellipsis. Whatever the advert is for it's intended to encourage people to "Get a body like this".

[RandyMarsh]

omg, he has also passed guidance on what preserves should look like in London.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=muslim+jam&safe=off&espv=2&biw=1440&bih=839&source=lnms&tbm=isch&;sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ_tmH5qfNAhXILsAKHUNNDacQ_A

[RandyMarsh]

damn it that did not work

[ummmm]

Okay...but it says 'the weight loss collection'

How many people at a bus stop or tube station have the time to read the small print?

[naomi24]

Does it matter?

[sp1814]

naomi24

Perhaps - but for some reason, the advertisers have used a sexualised image.

Legs spread for absolutely no reason.

Photoshopped waistline.

And the look on her face isn't, "I'm off to the beach."

It's, "I'm sexually available."

I'm no prude, but if I had a 10 year old daughter, I wouldn't want that projected to her every time she got on the bus to school.

I'm coming from it from a different perspective. With me, it's nothing to do with body shaming - it's more to do with the way that women are depicted in adverts.

Women are used as props.

They are sexualised.

They are presented (WAY more than men) as something to attain.

I think it's wrong.

Put it in lads mags, and instead encourage our young girls to become scientists, doctors and mathematicians, rather than something from Geordie Shore.

[ummmm]

Nicely put, sp.

[sp1814]

But back to Khandro's original point - does anyone really think that this is the thin edge of some Muslim wedge - and if so - what does the thick end look like (and refer back to his voting record that I posted on the first page).

[naomi24]

sp, it's all in your mind.

[sp1814]

unmm

Don't get me wrong. I'm totally in favour of sexualised images - but there's a place for it, and it's not on buses and tubes

I would not be in favour of images of Matt Lister all over Attitude magazine, but it would be entirely inappropriate for his image to appear on the 91 bus from Trafalgar Square.

(Waits for ummm to do a Goigle Image search)...

[sp1814]

Addendum:

I would be in favour of images of Matt Lister...etc

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Legs spread for absolutely no reason.

Photoshopped waistline.

And the look on her face isn't, "I'm off to the beach."

It's, "I'm sexually available." ///

That says more about you, and your own interpretation of the model in the advert.

Are you sure you are not a Muslim SP?

[naomi24]

sp, actually I think AOG is right. Your interpretation of the image does say more about you. I'm assuming it's aimed at women and doesn't come across to me in that way at all. It's just a girl in a bikini.

[ummmm]

SP...I've said more than once that I have no issue with sexualised images. Just not ones advertising slimming pills.

I have a daughter, a skinny one, I would never want her to sit at a bus stop and think she should be thinner than she is.

Same goes for my sons.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Having Googled Matt Lister, perhaps you are not in the right position to debate on this issue?

[sp1814]

AOG

1. I'm in the best position to judge Matt Lister

2. I urge you to delete your browser history before Mrs AOG gets home, because I don't think you would be able to explain the reason for looking him up.

naomi24 - I think the image is just not right. It's not something that really bothers me per se - but I totally understand why others might take against it.