Are Ukip Onto A Winner Here?

[sp1814]

Raising the drink driving limit in Scotland and a repeal of the smoking ban in pubs and clubs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-scottish-manifesto-drink-drive-limits-smoking-pubs-airguns-pubs-farage-a6973336.html

Do you support these measures?

I wasn't aware that there were variations in the allowable blood alcohol levels across the country, so equalisation makes some sense.

But the reintroduction of smoking in pubs and bars?

Seems a bit retrograde.

[sp1814]

Prisons are a very proposition. Not really worth comparing to pubs.

[Togo]

//Prisons are a very proposition. Not really worth comparing to pubs.//

The house of commons. Ahhh the smoke room in pubs. Old is new.

[Zacs-Master]

Ah.....yet another UKIP sound bite idea to appeal to the knuckle dragging masses I see.

[Togo]

Just give ZM a kebab or burger. Improves a grown up pub no end I'm sure.

[naomi24]

He's lost the plot lately.

[Togo]

Suppose it is hard to drag your knuckles when you have your head up your arc.

[Zacs-Master]

Strange how when I comment, the very people I'm talking about pop up. Magic!

[naomi24]

Mmm... see what I mean? Who believes in magic?

[mikey4444]

If UKIP are serious in suggesting that the ban on smoking would be a winner in any future election, then they really are divorced from reality. All it would do is to reinforce UKIP's reputation for looniness on a grand scale !

Completely bonkers !

Is it any wonder that they only have one MP and their Leader hasn't managed, despite his many attempts, to get in the HOC ?

[Jackdaw33]

Change the record, for God's sake!

[Quizproquo]

Schipol airport has tiny smoking rooms with massive extraction fans sucking everything out. It's noisy when you're in there and a bit smoky because it's tiny and there are a lot of travellers in there, If you shut it for 5 mins an hour I don't think second hand smoke would be a problem while th cleaners go in.
Pubs could have a scaled down version.
As for the decline in pubs, it's only non smokers who seem to fail to see the link. A pint without a fag is just not an option for most. The two go hand in hand. The pubs emptied of smokers and filled with kids. I know which I prefer.

[Jackdaw33]

^^LOL!! Right on, Bro.

[mikey4444]

Jack...I will change the record, if and when UKIP stops being barmy.

But it doesn't look as if its going to happen anytime soon !

[mikey4444]

Quizproquo...in Wales, only about 20% of adults now still smoke. Why should the rest of us suffer for the selfish pleasure of a minority ?

I have spent this evening in a busy Wetherspoons Pub in the heart of my home town, and there was no sign whatsoever that the smoking ban was having any effect on the trade....its a tired excuse that should have been screwed up into an ashtray a long time ago.

Smokers are on the run, and they had better get used to it.

[Quizproquo]

Mikey I don't listen to you when it comes to smoking because I don't listen to any form of fanatical rhetoric.
You hate smoking, I get that, but your views are very much clouded by it.
The scenario I have mentioned would have no effect on the self righteous bigots whatsoever, so you;d be fine.

[Jackdaw33]

Go, Quiz, Go!

[Mamyalynne]

Lovely to read such a pleasant debate - re the topic, I don't think smoking will ever return to pubs as such. Even as a smoker, I can see that - the day it was outlawed was the last day of casually visiting a pub for me and I accept that.


Alcohol drink drive linits should be uniform and am surprised they aren't.

[ummmm]

The smoking areas in many pub gardens is sufficient

[waterboatman]

OK if the smoking is only in a dedicated smoking room.

[Togo]

// only about 20% of adults now still smoke. Why should the rest of us suffer for the selfish pleasure of a minority ?//

Mikey loves his skewed statistics. Where does this 'about' 20% come from? Then to imply that the tenuous 80% actually visit a pub is misleading, but we expect that. I our local when the smokers are gathered under the glass roofed cast iron 30ft X 20ft heated enclosure, the non smokers all follow out, because it is dead inside due to the po faced non smokers, imitating lemon tasters. We smokers are a more garrulous, good humoured bunch.