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The Serbian PM Aleksandar Vucic is a former radical Serb nationalist who served under Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic in the late 1990s and he now refuses to acknowledge that Srebrenica, where 8000 men and boys were murdered, was a genocide.
So given all that, I am not sure why he invited to the 20th anniversary in the first place !
The Serbian PM Aleksandar Vucic is a former radical Serb nationalist who served under Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic in the late 1990s and he now refuses to acknowledge that Srebrenica, where 8000 men and boys were murdered, was a genocide.
So given all that, I am not sure why he invited to the 20th anniversary in the first place !
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Feelings are running high after Russia refused to recognise Srebrenica as genocide and given his background he would have done well to stay away.
18:04 Sat 11th Jul 2015
/// So given all that, I am not sure why he invited to the 20th anniversary in the first place !///
He is the Serbian PM, he would be damned if he did go and damned if he didn't. As Clinton said, it is about reconciliation. I'm not sure whether the failure to acknowledge the issue as 'genocide' would necessarily alter the situation. It's going to take a lot more time but the pain will be felt to such an extent that reconciliation may not be achieved but Vukic must keep trying.
Todays events demonstrates the scale of the task ahead.....
He is the Serbian PM, he would be damned if he did go and damned if he didn't. As Clinton said, it is about reconciliation. I'm not sure whether the failure to acknowledge the issue as 'genocide' would necessarily alter the situation. It's going to take a lot more time but the pain will be felt to such an extent that reconciliation may not be achieved but Vukic must keep trying.
Todays events demonstrates the scale of the task ahead.....
ichkeria...absolutely right. Of course it was a genocide, or an attempt at one anyway. Otherwise, why would so many boys have been killed ?
And just what is a former supporter of the butcher Ratko Mladić doing as PM of Serbia ? From the Wiki entry ::
"Before splitting away from the Radical Party of Vojislav Šešelj, Aleksandar Vučić was openly and publicly celebrating and calling for the protection of Ratko Mladić, a military leader accused of committing war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. In 2007, while Mladić was still at large in Serbia, Vučić was distributing posters stating "Safe house for general Mladić". During a parliament session he stated that the Serbian Parliament will always protect and be a safe house for the general and that any house in Serbia that bears the last name of Vučić will protect and shelter Mladić"
This man is a ruddy disgrace and should never have been invited in the first place.
And just what is a former supporter of the butcher Ratko Mladić doing as PM of Serbia ? From the Wiki entry ::
"Before splitting away from the Radical Party of Vojislav Šešelj, Aleksandar Vučić was openly and publicly celebrating and calling for the protection of Ratko Mladić, a military leader accused of committing war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. In 2007, while Mladić was still at large in Serbia, Vučić was distributing posters stating "Safe house for general Mladić". During a parliament session he stated that the Serbian Parliament will always protect and be a safe house for the general and that any house in Serbia that bears the last name of Vučić will protect and shelter Mladić"
This man is a ruddy disgrace and should never have been invited in the first place.
It's unfair to tar all Serbs with the same brush but they are the most insanely nationalistic people I know
It is hard to accept that Vucic really has repented The suspicion is that he'd say anything to get Serbia into the EU.
Bosnia is a very strange country: beautiful but like being in N Ireland only with three warring communities rather than two. I thought in N Ireland we liked putting flags up to mark our territory but Bosnia is something else!
It is hard to accept that Vucic really has repented The suspicion is that he'd say anything to get Serbia into the EU.
Bosnia is a very strange country: beautiful but like being in N Ireland only with three warring communities rather than two. I thought in N Ireland we liked putting flags up to mark our territory but Bosnia is something else!
Not completely out of touch PP
From another source:
/// , but the women, whose relatives were killed in Srebrenica, shook his hand, while one of them even hugged him.
Members of the Mothers of Srebrenica association welcomed Vucic and had a conversation with him. Hatidze Mehmedovic put a flower on the prime minister's lapel and said: "This is a symbol of suffering.///
Not all negative then.....
From another source:
/// , but the women, whose relatives were killed in Srebrenica, shook his hand, while one of them even hugged him.
Members of the Mothers of Srebrenica association welcomed Vucic and had a conversation with him. Hatidze Mehmedovic put a flower on the prime minister's lapel and said: "This is a symbol of suffering.///
Not all negative then.....
Complex history in the Balkans:
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It may not be genocide in terms of what we've become used to from the pogroms Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and other dictators have perpetrated but in terms of the population numbers it's a similar concept.
It wasn't a good time and this shows that there are still a lot of feeling running deep in Serbia and Crotia. Beautiful country ravaged by internal religious hatred, where have we heard that before, Mostar valley wasn't a nice place to be in 1993-1994
It wasn't a good time and this shows that there are still a lot of feeling running deep in Serbia and Crotia. Beautiful country ravaged by internal religious hatred, where have we heard that before, Mostar valley wasn't a nice place to be in 1993-1994
From Vucic:
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Interesting quote:
'There are fools in every nation'
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Interesting quote:
'There are fools in every nation'
SevenOP, some good links there thanks. Helps to put the situation in more context, as you mention, very complex.
Whether Vucic had acknowledged a 'genocide' would not have made the slightest difference to what happened yesterday. There will be complete mistrust of him by many people but it is clear that there are many who trust that his intentions are to build relations for the future. He met a number of people yesterday who could have easily shown him hostility but instead welcomed him. Others chose the former and this accentuates the split feeling.
It is to be hoped that he can make progress on this issue and he should be given every chance, but his allegiance to Mladic will ensure that his integrity will be continually called into question.
Whether Vucic had acknowledged a 'genocide' would not have made the slightest difference to what happened yesterday. There will be complete mistrust of him by many people but it is clear that there are many who trust that his intentions are to build relations for the future. He met a number of people yesterday who could have easily shown him hostility but instead welcomed him. Others chose the former and this accentuates the split feeling.
It is to be hoped that he can make progress on this issue and he should be given every chance, but his allegiance to Mladic will ensure that his integrity will be continually called into question.
"Whether Vucic had acknowledged a 'genocide' would not have made the slightest difference to what happened yesterday. "
It would have helped. The Serbs are in complete denial about this.
In as sense it matters not what you call it, but the fact that they, and the Russians, refuse to give it that name, betrays a lot about them I am afraid.
It would have helped. The Serbs are in complete denial about this.
In as sense it matters not what you call it, but the fact that they, and the Russians, refuse to give it that name, betrays a lot about them I am afraid.
Ichkeria /// but the fact that they, and the Russians, refuse to give it that name, betrays a lot about them I am afraid.///
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'betrayal' but I suspect you are far from convinced that Serbia's intentions are honourable in respect of reconciliation. Vucic himself made plenty of healthy statements before and after the ceremony and the fact he even attended showed a commitment to engage. Is it not so much the PM himself you take to task but the mindset of a wider regime?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'betrayal' but I suspect you are far from convinced that Serbia's intentions are honourable in respect of reconciliation. Vucic himself made plenty of healthy statements before and after the ceremony and the fact he even attended showed a commitment to engage. Is it not so much the PM himself you take to task but the mindset of a wider regime?
A lead voice for the association of Mothers stated 'it's not about genocide, it's about consciousness'. She went on to say that only if Vukic made the trip that it would be a de facto recognition of genocide.
If only it was all that simple.
Surprising that with supposedly 2000 policing the ceremony that it should have descended into such chaos.
If only it was all that simple.
Surprising that with supposedly 2000 policing the ceremony that it should have descended into such chaos.
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