Fao Aog

[Svejk]

For 18 months you expressed some concern about a large influx of immigrants from Romania & Bulgaria much to the mirth of some ABers. In view of this week's figures that 187,000 have indeed flooded in from those 2 countries in 12 months, are you happy that you were proved right and 'the usual suspects' have a great deal of egg on their faces. Or does it just deepen your original concerns.

[retrocop]

Sir Oracle
But nearer £589 than £100 that I think was suggested .

[THECORBYLOON]

ZACS I've not bought a paper for years and no, I've not been pinching them either.

[Zacs-Master]

Me neither. I find they tend to give one a rather unbalanced view of the world.

[anotheoldgit]

SirOracle

/// OAG If you worked during the 50's I presume that you were liable for National Service, a two year period. ///

How you worked that out I just do not know, I could have already served my time.

/// The pay for a conscript was 4 shillings a day which was 28 shillings per week ( £1.40p in present day money). ///

/// This is around £ 70 per annum ,well under the ridiculous figure you quote of £589 per annum for the average salary in the 50's ///

That is not a ridiculous figure but the correct one.

You cannot compare the pay for a National Serviceman to the pay of those working in civvy street, just as you can't compare the pay for the WW2 fighting forces to those working on munitions etc.

[SirOracle]

Not really Retro. Both figures are around the same figure of inaccuracy as each other ( £250 ). ;-)

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, what were your earnings in the '50s?

[retrocop]

aog
Exactly the point I was making at 1255. Always the gripe of the soldier how much a munition worker was paid over and above their pay.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// ZACS how can that be true when you you hardly ever see a white face and you never hear English spoken on trains blah blah blah... ///

Oh and you have also noticed that, have you?

FOOTNOTE: This poster was the first to introduce 'colour' into the debate.

[SirOracle]

AOG I would refer you to Retro's figures of earnings which are £350,and his source is impeccable.

[Zacs-Master]

LOL. AOG, you really need to get to grips with irony.

[anotheoldgit]

SirOracle

/// Retro. The figures you quote (non police ones) show 1950 average wages of £7 per week =£350 pa,a very far cry from AOG's figures of £589 pa. ///

Not my figures but the Office for National Statistics figures.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

Haven't you realised yet that one does not have to actually buy a paper these days, most are freely available on the web?

[retrocop]

Sir Oracle
I would hardly credit my source of figures as impeccable
We can all see it is from Hansard which is not housed in a den of veracity.:-)

[Zacs-Master]

really?

[SirOracle]

Retro. Your comments on Hansard are verging on treason.!! ;-)

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// ANOTHEOLDGIT, what were your earnings in the '50s? ///

If I told you, then I would have to shoot you.

I was brought up in an age when one's earnings were a personal matter, and it was accepted that it was the maximum of rudeness to ask anyone what their earnings were.

[Jackdaw33]

Loaf of bread: 1952: 6p

1952 prices converted into modern £/pence. Source: Office for National Statistics

In which case the correct conversion is 2½p, not 6p.

[retrocop]

Sir Oracle
Can't hang you for it nowadays!! :-)

[retrocop]

Loaf of Bread 1952: 6d ?

[Jackdaw33]

I remember it being 6d in 1955 then the government abolished the bread subsidy and the price shot up to 7½d, just over 3p. My mother was outraged.