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lots of moving goalposts here LOL
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Svejk, You couldn't make it up,not surprising though!!

Svejk, that item was a year old last Saturday
"No it is not a ridiculous story, ichkeria. "

Well, not ridiculous perhaps, but the point this Tory is making is that it is bad politics for the Tories allegedly to "neglect" Somerset while appearing only to care for flood defences in the third world. That may be true, in the current climate (and I don't mean meteorological climate) but I don't think even he is making the direct connection that doing one thing forestalls the possibility of doing the other
Chilldoubt

Seriously???

Do you want UKIP to win the next General Election?

You might be the first person I've heard say that.

Astonishing.
douglas9401.

You're using an argument based on reductio ad absurdum.

It's invalid.
It may be one of those impossible to occur things sp but of course we all want UKIP to win the next General Election. They only have to be put up with for a term then hopefully they will have outlived their usefulness: and surely they can't make a bigger hash of things that the parties we've have over the last, oh I don't know, 50 to 60 years ? Go on, bite the bullet. You know it makes sense.
Hey, sp1814, just thought I'd look in to say that I, too, would like to see UKIP win the next General Election. They are the only party that talks any sense.
'Why Should We Spend £600M On Third World Flood Defences?'

We shouldn't
Furthermore, I find it appalling that we are funding the building of clean water projects in Southern Sudan, when our local branch of Waitrose still doesn't have any stocks of San Pellegrino mineral water.

I literally have no idea how I'm going to cope.

And to make matters worse, it would appear that Bob Geldof is trying to get us Brits to give money to help fight the Ebola outbreaks in Africa, but I've now had a headache for about an hour.

WHERE ARE YOU SIR BOB!!!

WHERE IS MY PARACETAMOL???

Charity begins at home.

Etc etc...ad lib to fade.
Ha ha...awesome.

Part of me wants UKIP to win. Just so I can laugh at those who haven't really thought it through.

But the other, more sensible part of me knows that it would be an extremely hollow laugh...

...I used to work for a bank and know a few investment analysts.

They've all said the same thing about a UKIP Britain.

It's scary.

Really, really, really scary.

Still - who cares about the economy as long as we can get out of the EU right?
We don't all believe the doomsayers. They aren't always right.
Problems on foreign soil is none of our business so why do we always have to get involved?

Chilldoubt

Seriously???

Do you want UKIP to win the next General Election?

You might be the first person I've heard say that.

Astonishing.
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Maybe you need to get out more sp, I'm fairly sure there's more than just me. Labour and the Tories won't reduce the amount of money we *** away on foreign aid so it has to be UKIP.
joeluke

Because we have financial interests in territories outside the UK.

It's why young British soldiers die in the Middle East, and it's why private security firms operate in the region.

Notice how we are committed to bringing stability and democracy to regions which are rich in mineral and oil reserves?

Not sure if you're old enough to remember what happened when the OPEC nations decided to rack up the dollar price of a barrel of oil in the early 70s. I remember, and my guess is that Western governments are absolutely terrified of instability in the region.

We could wash our hands of it, but we then have to be prepared for the possibility of a major worldwide recession. It would start with the oil companies having to raise prices due to lower yields, and end with spiralling inflation, unemployment etc.

Oil needs to be available as a free market product.

It's fundamentally naive to think we can simply walk away from the Middle East.

If anyone can put forth an argument that outlines and alternative scenario if the West pulls out, I'd be happy to hear it, as too I suspect every politician and economist who have been grinding their gears for the last 50 years on the issue.
Chilldoubt

I genuinely admire your optimism.

I think I might just be a little too cynical - imagining that a cabinet full of Hyacinth Buckets and Basil Fawltys are capable of steering the country to a social and economic nirvana.

If UKIP won, I suspect I would be hearing an ominous drum roll every time I opened my annual pension statement.

But like I say - good for you and your optimism. You may very well be right.

Who knows!

So which party is making you feel optimistic then sp?
So most of this foreign aid must go to Qatar and Dubai. I never knew that, SP.(thanks)

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