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I have had a flyer pushed through my door today, by a company offereing to deliver fags and beer to you door from 9:00am - 4:00am. They state on their website that they are allowed to so this due to a loop hole in the law. Is this true? What's to stop anyone doing it, are there rules against this kind of thing?
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You need a licence to sell tobacco and alcohol and I doubt these people have one. I would take the flyer to the local police station so they can investigate the company/people who are offering this service. I have no idea whether the service is legal with a licence though.I used to work in an off licence and some of our customers would come in and purchase large amounts of wine which we would then deliver for them but that isn't quite the same as what you are describing.
You only need a license to sell alcohol on retail basis. You can sell it in wholesale quantities without a licence. So, for example, it's perfectly legal for someone to sell wine by the case at a car boot sale but it's illegal for them to sell individual bottles. If the offer you received relates to bulk quantities, they might be using this 'legal loophole'.
Also, while doorstep sales of booze might be illegal, the trader could hold a licence for sales from their depot, which you phone to place an order. That would be no different to getting booze delivered from Tesco by ordering online. (My nearest Tesco Extra hold a 24-hour licence so they could, if they chose to do so, deliver alcohol at any time of the day or night).
Chris
Also, while doorstep sales of booze might be illegal, the trader could hold a licence for sales from their depot, which you phone to place an order. That would be no different to getting booze delivered from Tesco by ordering online. (My nearest Tesco Extra hold a 24-hour licence so they could, if they chose to do so, deliver alcohol at any time of the day or night).
Chris
Chris,
I regret that your answer is incorrect. I know that your research on such things in normally impeccable but, when the Licensing Act 2005 became law in 2005, the right to sell alcohol in wholesale quantities went out the iwndow. You can now only sell alcohol without a licence if you are selling to another trader who, themselves, have a licence. If someone is selling alcohol to another, there must, somewhere in the chain, be a Premises Licence and a Personal Licence held by the person who authorises the sale. So, if someone sells by phone or over the internet, the place where the alcohol is selected for the individual purchaser is where the licence must apply.
The activity in the question appears to be unlawful and should be borught to the attention of the police and local council licensing section.
I regret that your answer is incorrect. I know that your research on such things in normally impeccable but, when the Licensing Act 2005 became law in 2005, the right to sell alcohol in wholesale quantities went out the iwndow. You can now only sell alcohol without a licence if you are selling to another trader who, themselves, have a licence. If someone is selling alcohol to another, there must, somewhere in the chain, be a Premises Licence and a Personal Licence held by the person who authorises the sale. So, if someone sells by phone or over the internet, the place where the alcohol is selected for the individual purchaser is where the licence must apply.
The activity in the question appears to be unlawful and should be borught to the attention of the police and local council licensing section.
Quoting Loonytunes...
"Chris,
I regret that your answer is incorrect. I know that your research on such things in normally impeccable but, when the Licensing Act 2005 became law in 2005, the right to sell alcohol in wholesale quantities went out the iwndow. You can now only sell alcohol without a licence if you are selling to another trader who, themselves, have a licence. If someone is selling alcohol to another, there must, somewhere in the chain, be a Premises Licence and a Personal Licence held by the person who authorises the sale. So, if someone sells by phone or over the internet, the place where the alcohol is selected for the individual purchaser is where the licence must apply.
The activity in the question appears to be unlawful and should be borught to the attention of the police and local council licensing section."
Does this mean a third party can deliver the alcohol that has been bought at a retail premises?
i.e. they purchase through a website which is in all sense and purposes to do with the retailer, and the retailer is paid for the order which is then delivered to the customer, does this require a licence?
"Chris,
I regret that your answer is incorrect. I know that your research on such things in normally impeccable but, when the Licensing Act 2005 became law in 2005, the right to sell alcohol in wholesale quantities went out the iwndow. You can now only sell alcohol without a licence if you are selling to another trader who, themselves, have a licence. If someone is selling alcohol to another, there must, somewhere in the chain, be a Premises Licence and a Personal Licence held by the person who authorises the sale. So, if someone sells by phone or over the internet, the place where the alcohol is selected for the individual purchaser is where the licence must apply.
The activity in the question appears to be unlawful and should be borught to the attention of the police and local council licensing section."
Does this mean a third party can deliver the alcohol that has been bought at a retail premises?
i.e. they purchase through a website which is in all sense and purposes to do with the retailer, and the retailer is paid for the order which is then delivered to the customer, does this require a licence?
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