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cafc2002 | 17:00 Wed 03rd Dec 2003 | Animals & Nature
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What was the first bird Noah let out of his ark
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A raven. See 'Genesis' Chapter 8 Verse 7.
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Thanks I think I will choose the answer Raven ahead of Mrs Noah
Nevermore!

Mrs Noah is funny though!

I always thought it was a dove, which returned with a branch, proving that the waters had receeded enough to reveal the tree tops.
Andy, Re my biblical reference above, the raven set off in Verse 7 and the dove not until Verse 8! The dove returned with no evidence of dry land, so - a week later - Noah sent it out again and this time it returned with an olive leaf. This showed that the waters were receding.

The poor raven is never mentioned again, so far as I know. However, Verse 7 does say that it: "went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth", which would suggest that it at least survived! It just didn't bother coming back. Whatever happened, it was the first birdie to leave the ark. Cheers

Thanks QM - right on the money - as always!
...An imaginary one, because this whole 'Noah's Ark' business is a figment of people's imaginations!!!!!
i'd like to know how noah stopped them leaving for so long in the first place...especially ducks
Exactly...! And why didn't the lions immediately eat the antelopes, and every other predator eat its prey right there on the ark. One can't argue, "Well, maybe God talked to them and told them to behave." Animals don't even have souls, according to the Bible, so why would they "listen" to what God has to say?
I'm always amazed when people respond to biblical questions and answers on the basis that the Bible's "stories" cannot be true. Of course they can't! At least they can't unless one is a Christian fundamentalist or somesuch.

According to 'Genesis', God's first specific 'creation' in the already-existing heaven and earth on the First Day was light (Verse 3) However, the sun, moon and stars were not created until Day Four (Verse 16), so where did all the light come from? Fundamentalists will simply say: "The Bible says there were light, day and night so there were light, day and night. End of story!"

It's manifest nonsense in logical terms, but the rest of us can surely just accept that all of these "stories" are simply allegories, such as would satisfy relatively primitive desert-dwelling people - not to mention their modern counterparts - as an explanation of their beginnings. Can't we?

OK what you're forgetting here is we're talking about God. The rules of logic and theroy no longer apply because God is not something of this world. So what if there was no sun? The light may have come from Heaven, surely there was some link between the two places at that point? Either way you can't prove us wrong and we can't prove us right; so its easier if you leave personal opinions like 'it didn't happen' out of it, okay? :-) Well done for answering the question mind, i sure didn't know that! :-p
I have no intention of getting involved in a theological debate here, Aceizace, so this will be my very last contribution to the thread.

I'd just ask you to consider: "If there was light already coming from heaven, as you suggest, why would God need to say, 'Let there be light'?

As I said earlier, it's obvious nonsense in terms of logic, but I'm perfectly happy for people to believe in "logical nonsense". There are Americans, for example, who think selling guns on much the same basis as they sell sweeties has nothing to do with the murder-rate in their country. Good luck to 'em and to you, too.

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