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What Is The Point Of A "bouncer"in Cricket?
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what is the point of a "bouncer"in cricket?
as that is what caused the injury to the cricketer who died.
as that is what caused the injury to the cricketer who died.
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Imho. Each and every bowler should be dismissed from the field if that bowler bowls bodyline or bouncer. It's not Cricket. Imho. In this case the bowler should be charged with Manslaughter
00:31 Fri 28th Nov 2014
bowlers don't bowl at the wicket that much. The most common delivery for fast bowlers is in the "corridor of uncertainty" going just past the side of the wicket in an attempt to get the batsman to nick the ball while trying to hit it, and be caught. (Because the ball can subtly change direction as it goes, or as it bounces, a batsman may guess wrongly at exactly where it will be when it gets to him.) Similarly, it's hoped a batsman will try to hit a bouncer, get an edge and be caught. If a batsman doesn't want to do this he can just step back out of the way. However, Hughes, the batsman who died, was trying to hit it, and he missed.
methyl,
Utter horlicks.
A short pitched delivery is not delivered to cause injury, it is a specific strategy that just so happens to mean the ball is aimed in the general direction of the head.
Yes it can intimidate but ultimately the bowler is looking for the batsman to 'sky' one off a top edge or direct the ball down to a fielder at fine leg.
It is a strategy that has seen at one time or another even the world's finest batsmen come unstuck.
Sadly, Phillip Hughes got one at full pace which he missed and was unfortunate enough to have his vertebral artery split as a result of being hit. Literally a quarter of an inch either way and he would have survived with probably nothing more than a headache, so let's stop all this silly talk about GBH etc, it's simply not cricket.
The short ball is an accepted part of first class cricket around the globe and would be seen by any top-order batsman as a challenge, as well par for the course.
Tragic though Hughes detah is, the focus must now be on Sean Abbott, who though no fault of his own must be in a dark place right now but the Aussies will get round him and give him all the support he needs, as will the wider cricket community. He has nothing to reproach himself for.
It is however widely accepted that he himself may never play cricket again, such are the nuances of being a fast bowler.
Utter horlicks.
A short pitched delivery is not delivered to cause injury, it is a specific strategy that just so happens to mean the ball is aimed in the general direction of the head.
Yes it can intimidate but ultimately the bowler is looking for the batsman to 'sky' one off a top edge or direct the ball down to a fielder at fine leg.
It is a strategy that has seen at one time or another even the world's finest batsmen come unstuck.
Sadly, Phillip Hughes got one at full pace which he missed and was unfortunate enough to have his vertebral artery split as a result of being hit. Literally a quarter of an inch either way and he would have survived with probably nothing more than a headache, so let's stop all this silly talk about GBH etc, it's simply not cricket.
The short ball is an accepted part of first class cricket around the globe and would be seen by any top-order batsman as a challenge, as well par for the course.
Tragic though Hughes detah is, the focus must now be on Sean Abbott, who though no fault of his own must be in a dark place right now but the Aussies will get round him and give him all the support he needs, as will the wider cricket community. He has nothing to reproach himself for.
It is however widely accepted that he himself may never play cricket again, such are the nuances of being a fast bowler.
Maybe methyl would like to come out of the dark ages and read the description here:
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If a bowler wanted to really aim for a bowler's head he or she would ... aim for their head. A bouncer as the name implies is a short pitched delivery that rises, admittedly with the intention of making the batsman either duck out of the way or perhaps play a reckless shot.
But there are better ways of scoring a direct hit on a batsman and as others have said those methods are banned and even bouncers usually have to be bowled sparingly.
But there are better ways of scoring a direct hit on a batsman and as others have said those methods are banned and even bouncers usually have to be bowled sparingly.
It has the same legitimacy as spin, yorker, full toss or any other delivery that is not deemed a no-ball or is within the law.
The point is from the bowler's perspective is to deliver a ball in order to take a wicket. The idea that a bowler may intentionally maim is absurd.
As I said on another thread if a batsman hits a short delivery for six then it plants a seed of doubt in the bowler and his captain may have a few choice words....
The point is from the bowler's perspective is to deliver a ball in order to take a wicket. The idea that a bowler may intentionally maim is absurd.
As I said on another thread if a batsman hits a short delivery for six then it plants a seed of doubt in the bowler and his captain may have a few choice words....
The laws of cricket are a dark art as far as I'm concerned, as have only ever been interested in rugby, so have never played the game and rarely watch it (a) because I don't understand the rules and (b) because I find it boring.
So, I'm ignorant.
However, even with my ignorance, I am aware of what a bouncer is and what its intention is.
Methyl's call for the bowler to be criminally charged is possibly one of the most absurd things I've ever read.
Batsmen know they will face a bouncer now and then and that as its a legitimate part of the game they accept this fact. This was an unfortunate accident.
So, I'm ignorant.
However, even with my ignorance, I am aware of what a bouncer is and what its intention is.
Methyl's call for the bowler to be criminally charged is possibly one of the most absurd things I've ever read.
Batsmen know they will face a bouncer now and then and that as its a legitimate part of the game they accept this fact. This was an unfortunate accident.
I think cricket should go the way of the new Celtic and rangers strips
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I do feel sorry for the bowler. He's done something perfectly legitimate in not only the rules, but also the spirit of the game - as widely accepted by those who play it.
Nevertheless, he has to live with the fact that he aimed at the man's head, it connected, and the man died.
As an objective and fairly disinterested observer, I don't like the idea of bouncers. I wouldn't like to see a tennis player deliberately whacking the ball at his opponents body instead of trying to make a winning shot in order to 'unnerve' him, and I don't see this as being much different. I'm not a cricket fan though.
Nevertheless, he has to live with the fact that he aimed at the man's head, it connected, and the man died.
As an objective and fairly disinterested observer, I don't like the idea of bouncers. I wouldn't like to see a tennis player deliberately whacking the ball at his opponents body instead of trying to make a winning shot in order to 'unnerve' him, and I don't see this as being much different. I'm not a cricket fan though.
Lmao at methyl, you are talking some rot.
Modern bouncers are the same as old fashioned bouncers, the game is the same unless you are going to tell us that modern bowlers are more aggressive than Lillie, Thomson, Roberts and Holding.
A bouncer is bowled to unsettle a batsman sure but it is also a legitimate wicket taking delivery either by a catch to short leg or the 3 card trick with deep fielders out for the mistimed pull or hook.
Modern bouncers are the same as old fashioned bouncers, the game is the same unless you are going to tell us that modern bowlers are more aggressive than Lillie, Thomson, Roberts and Holding.
A bouncer is bowled to unsettle a batsman sure but it is also a legitimate wicket taking delivery either by a catch to short leg or the 3 card trick with deep fielders out for the mistimed pull or hook.
It's a tragic accident and a terrible thing to happen for everyone concerned.
I remember Phil Hughes having trouble with short pitched bowling against England, particularly being peppered by Steve Harmison and Freddie Flintoff. Bowlers try to find a weakness, and then exploit it - this happened to Phil Hughes and he had to be taken out of the firing line for his own sake. His bravery to keep trying to master his weakness is also a contributory factor - eventually too brave for his own good - all very sad!
A terrible accident - yes, but it was partly his reputation for having a weakness that the bowler exploited. The equipment can be improved, but no helmet can protect all vulnerable parts of the body and you can't protect brave men from themselves.
I remember Phil Hughes having trouble with short pitched bowling against England, particularly being peppered by Steve Harmison and Freddie Flintoff. Bowlers try to find a weakness, and then exploit it - this happened to Phil Hughes and he had to be taken out of the firing line for his own sake. His bravery to keep trying to master his weakness is also a contributory factor - eventually too brave for his own good - all very sad!
A terrible accident - yes, but it was partly his reputation for having a weakness that the bowler exploited. The equipment can be improved, but no helmet can protect all vulnerable parts of the body and you can't protect brave men from themselves.
short-pitched bowling covers a lot of territory - it may land on the batsman's chest, or his head, or even go over his head. And the bowler isn't always in total control of this. So talking of aiming at heads is a bit misleading. From his point of view, he's just varying the length of his bowling to keep the batsman from settling into a routine.
Bouncer is a weapon in the armoury of the quick bowler. But no bowler ever tries to injure or hurt batsman as the main objective usuallay is getting him out. As for this incident, it is one in millions incident so I would not take it in a sense that cricket is a dangerous game. I have played cricket for over 35 years including the time when no one used to wear helmet. Injuries are part of many field sports and fortunately these kind of incidents and extremely rare. But in any circumstances I would never blame the bowler.
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