Why Did People Allow The Union Flag To Be Associated With Far Right Groups?

[sp1814]

This is the result:

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/st-georges-flag-snubbed-16150/

Which other country would allow their nation flag to become associated with right wing political factions?

In America, all people can stand behind their flag...now if you see a group of men marching down the street with the Union Flag draped around their shoulders, you can be fairly certain that their knuckles will be draping along the ground (did ya see what I did there?)

Seriously...how comes this happened to England, but not Scotland, Ireland or Wales?

Who is to blame (because I assume *someone* has to be blamed...)

[sp1814]

emmie

I suggest that the reason you may have not seen young black men dress that way, is because (perhaps) you don't work in IT.

I see young black colleagues who wear Hugo Boss suits to work worn with Thomas Pink shirts.

However, in my defence, I've only ever worked in the City and/or in IT, so I don't see the demographic you see.

But believe me - there are loads and loads of non-whites who don't fall in to the demographic you describe.

Perhaps if I took a trip out of Islington, I would see this.

I don't care too.

[royfromaus]

Well actually, I was wondering if the killers of Lee Rigby would be classed as knuckle draggers...?


sp1814
I am seriously hoping that AB residents recognise the difference between black gang members and young black men.


Well I am certainly capable of seeing the difference. I can also recognise that there is a difference between a skinhead and a knuckle dragger.

sp1814
Not sure why you should find my characterisation of knuckle-draggers irritating,


It's your assumptions about skinheads I find irritating. (You eventually corrected yourself on your first gaff)

[sp1814]

royfromaus

You wrote:

"Well actually, I was wondering if the killers of Lee Rigby would be classed as knuckle draggers...?"

Absolutely not. I have to say, as someone who saw that story unfold, I would not class them as knuckle-draggers. These were filthy murderers.

Full stop.

[sp1814]

royfromaus

I think you need to re-read some of my equivocations on this thread.

There are some skinheads who are awesome, such as Peter Waterfield - but men like him are in the minority (unfortunately).

I am sure that most skinheads are perfectly decent people, but remember, I didn't refer to 'most' skinheads....I referred to a specific subset...they ones that march down the street draped in the flag of St George.

They are generally not that great.

And frequently fat.

That's the perfect storm of awfulness (I am bigoted against fat men who appear in public - there I've said it...)

[sp1814]

royfromaus

FYI...any man who looks like this (Pete Waterfield) should be applauded.

Skinhead or not.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/8/4/1344077160402/Peter-Waterfield-and-Tom--004.jpg

[jno]

fat people are humans too, sp1814. Pass me another lasagne.

[douglas9401]

Andre has a red flag, Chiang Ching's is blue
They all have hills to fly them on except for Lin Tai Yu
Dressing up in costumes, playing silly games
Hiding out in tree-tops shouting out rude names

[sp1814]

douglas9401

One of the great British pop songs of all time.

Thank you for reminding of me of it. I am about to add it to my 'Going to work' iTunes playlist.

God bless ya.

And take 'Best Answer'...

[royfromaus]

sp1814
Question Author
royfromaus

I think you need to re-read some of my equivocations on this thread.



No I don't. It is actually a very muddled thread, full of contradictions.

[sp1814]

royfromaus

Yep...they tend to go that way.

You'd get more sense from watching five party political broadcasts in a row.

[douglas9401]

Cheers sp1814. :)