The Two Australian D-Jay Situation

[Frogears]

Number one can the family of the poor woman who committed suicide sue? If so who and on what grounds?

Secondly, is it just me who finds the body language and apology on the news of the dj's a little overdone and fake?

[emmie]

ayg, i totally agree, some seem to think the poor woman must have been unhinged, well as they say there is the straw that breaks the camels back, and maybe once this inquest is done other information will come to light. every report has said the same, dedicated nurse, caring and compassionate, perhaps the shame of what happened really was that last straw. I hope the family find some peace, as to why Keith Vaz was there is anyone's guess, however he seems very adept at getting his snout in the papers or on the TV at any opportunity.

[naomi24]

I understand he's their MP, Em.

[emmie]

it says he is Member of Parliament for Leicester East, i thought the family lived in Bristol, and that the nurse worked in London.

[naomi24]

Oh, right. I misunderstood then.

[emmie]

he apparently went to see the family in Bristol, and seems to have become their spokesman. Would be better a family friend rather than some MP, especially one who is not in their constituency. I hate pranks, and this one for what's it worth went completely wrong. As to the thousands that were mentioned before, no one would know if the pranks, jokes were taken in good part, because no one would have statistics on how many people were hurt by them, not dissimilar to bullying, which is abhorrent for any one.

[youngmafbog]

Vaz has seen an opportunity. This actually makes him the most vile character in this whole circus.

It is a sad tragic incident, but to lynch two foreign journalists is a joke. When will people in this country get to understand we don't rule the world. and anyway even if they had done it in this country (like Beadle etc) would they have broken the law - No, they would not have.

[anneasquith]

i may be wrong, but i think i read/heard the family had contacted keith vaz ?

[anneasquith]

and i do wish people would stop saying this lady ( must have been unhinged/have had mental health issues. we dont know this.

[jno]

I agree, anneasquith. In fact some people seem to be saying she committed suicide (not that this has been proved), therefore she must have been mentally ill, therefore the DJs bear no responsibility. I'm not at all convinced.

[joko]

i dont think anyone has implied she is unhinged or mental at all!

just that she must have had other worries in her life or was suffering depression, to come to the drastic conclusion she did.

to feel that you just cannot go on any more, and that death is the only solution, and knowing you are leaving your kids and family to suffer for the rest of their lives is not a decision you come to lightly - especially over something relatively trivial like this (in comparison to other traumas) - is not the conclusion most people would come to.

in fact, i actually hope she did have other issues - because if it were to come to light that she had killed herself SOLELY because of this one thing, and was otherwise perfectly happy and well adjusted etc, then i would lose all sympathy for her i'm afraid.
I would have to conclude that she was pretty selfish and kind of stupid and overly dramatic ... and i'd rather not think that about her.

to do something like that after only a few days, just because of 'shame', is ridiculous - it implies she just worked herself up into a state.

when i think of the utter terror and torment some people have to go through every single day, for years - rape, murder, bullying, abuse etc and the shame and fear they suffer - and they dont kill themselves.

i am amazed how so many people can people justify her actions through 'shame'...?

that said, perhaps though, it was a dramatic cry for help, for sympathy, to show her own remorse, and she hoped to be discovered in time...but sadly wasnt - that would make more sense.

i myself was hospitalised for depression many years ago - so i do understand how it feels...and i have also suffered horrible embarassments in life - we all have - ive also had dreadful experiences at work etc - much worse than this - and even though i had been suffering at my lowest ebb, i did not think killing myself was the only answer...

[emmie]

i was in the same way as you, as stated in your last paragraph, however i did consider it, sometimes the way things go you can't see another way out.
No one in life is ever 100 percent happy, nor indeed 100 percent sad or miserable, but events can conspire to make things seem very bad indeed, and it can take one moment of someone else's actions thoughtless deed to push you over the edge.

[NOX]

I think ANY speculation on this matter is ridiculous- clearly the DJ's didn't intend this awful outcome and it wasn't foreseeable- likewise the poor woman in question needn't have been mentally ill or depressed prior to this, although I expect she felt somewhat isolated living away from her family and probably tired and quite probably quite near the end of her tether with other things perhaps. At the end of the day it was a tragic accident, no-one 'knows' what the DJ's are feeling or whether their apology is ' fake' or not- not you not me not a behavioural psychologist, not anyone, but it would be usual human nature to feel regret and remorse if someone had killed themselves because at least partly you had played a trick on them. I fell sorry for everyone concerned here, and don't see the reason or need for a witch hunt.

[chaptazbru]

I saw these two dj's on TV and thought 'Crocodile Tears'.

Also just heard on the radio that poor Jacintha is thought to have hung herself - terrible.