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R1Geezer | 17:52 Fri 03rd Dec 2010 | News
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Is he correct? Can we end the EU nightmare now please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg
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Yes & No.

The EU is corrupt and a broken system. We need representation - real representation and a real parliament. Currently the EU commission runs the show, which is unfortunate as they're unelected luvvies of the various PM's and presidents of the union.

However, I support the concept of the EU. I think it is a necessity to create a strong union which cannot be pushed around when it comes to the demands of the US and China - let alone when South America starts swinging some serious weight in international politics.

[Personal comments not to be taken as editorial stance!]
What can I say, the last person to tell them the truth was Maggie and even she didn't go anywhere near as far as N F, and all without notes . I noticed there was at least some applause at the end . Maggie stood up for the UK but didn't attack the other members . I don't think any MEP of any country has done so . He certainly didn't make many friends.
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A strong union ! If only thats all it was to be, but its not, they want a superstate, they do not want sovereign states like ours, they want to destroy us and our heritage they want us to all be provinces governed in every way imaginable from Brussels, they want toal power over us just like the Romans 2000 years ago.

Brussels love to standardise everything and everyone, they do not want free thinking people, they want servants to tax and subjugate.

The sooner we are out the better
and what did the Romans ever do for us...
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One of the main reasons for the collapse othe Roman empire was the belief that one size fits all.
They believed that what worked in Rome would /must work everywhere .
What a complete twit. The fact that this barmy idiot was democratically elected, and there representing us is a huge embarrassment.

And so rude as well, you'd think he was German.
Didn't the Romans also invent the Sauna
Whilst I don't believe everything that Mr Farage says (as I don't believe everything any one person says), I have to say that I cannot disagree with his above speech. It's pretty clear that the aim of the EU is create a superstate with one currency and one government.

It appears to me that the people who run the EU seem to believe in a kind of pseudo-democracy. They think that the people should have free and fair elections that installs governments in their own respective countries, but when it comes to the 'EU state' (ie. all the member countries together as a whole) that democratic vision and ideology conveniently evaporates.

The EU is depressingly none democratic; it's leaders chosen, not by the public, but by their fellow EU member peers. And frighteningly, they cannot be removed from office by any democratic process.

And more importantly, almost none of the EU member states has bothered to ask the electorate if they wanted to be a part of this institution.


This is not democracy in any way, shape or form.
Otters' noses. Wolves' nipple tips. Ocelots' spleens! Blessed are the cheesmakers! He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy! I have a friend called Biggus Dickus! Crucifixion? Only one cross each then turn to the right. Always look on the bright side of life.
Well said birdie1971
Mike11111

Odd post... quoting lines of dialogue from the very funny film, Life of Brian...

Are you saying that this is something we shouldn't be worried about?
Far from it. The sooner we withdraw the better. I can remember when we were applying to join. Politicans from both the right and left campaigned against it on the grounds that it would destroy the sovereignty of parliament. The arch-traitor Ted Heath tried to bypass this by saying that it was not a surrendering, but merely a 'pooling' of sovereignty. That fatuous remark alone did it for me.
The EU would have been right for us when they had just 6 countries. Now having 27 members most of them are hangers-on reaping the rewards and taxes from the richer countries. They say that a chain is only equal to its weakest link and we have a few of those. The EU should be split into 2 with the original 6 and ourselves as the star chamber making all the decisions and the others should take comfort from being secondary members.
We've all been sold a lemon on this issue. The EU was initially a trade agreement. Nothing more, nothing less. Fast forward a generation and this thing we signed up for is now a great behemoth of bureaucracy; a none democratic leviathan that preaches freedom and democracy whilst deliberately attempting to stifle the very same.

When the Irish voted 'No' in the referendum to ratify the Lisbon treaty, I rejoiced. I was actually stupidly naive enough to think that the EU would play by their own rules (ie. that unless every single country ratified the treaty, it could not become law). What a fool I was.

I should have known better than to think that the EU would take 'No' for an answer. Once the Irish were told to vote again I knew that democracy was dead in the water. The powers that be in the EU made it clear that they would only accept a 'Yes' answer.

This is not democracy.

It is clear to anyone whose eyes are open that the unelected individuals that control the EU are not only undemocratic but overtly megalomaniacal – they wish to impose their will on billions of people and they don't want to be inconvenienced with such trivialities as democratic process.
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where's jake and co? The silence is deafening from the Europhiles.

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