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FINES AND CRB DISCLOSURES

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justme1 | 13:04 Sun 24th Jan 2010 | Law
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me if a police fixed penalty notice fine would show up on an enanced CRB disclosure as well as the new regulations coming into place?
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It definately will not show on a standard disclosure.

It may show on an enhanced disclosure at the chief police officer's discretion, if he believes that the reason for issuing the fine was relevent to the position being applied for.

The likelihood that the fine is disclosed should decrease with the pssage of time.

What are the new regulations coming into place?
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the new vetting and barring scheme? If it was for a position in a school the how would that go..probs show up i imagine?
O right ok.

This aspect has changed. The standard disclosure no longer checks if a person is barred from working with children or vulnerable adults.

This is ony checked on an enhanced disclosure and therefore anyone working with or having close contact with these groups of people will be subjected to an enhanced check.

What was the fixed penlaty notice for, if you don't mind me asking? You don't have to be specific. The reason why I'm asking is that is it was for a mninor traffic violation then you will have nothing to worry about.

The types of penalty notices that may be disclosed on an enhanced check are penalty notices for disorder (PND). There are two tiers of offence, lower tier and higher tier with fines of £50 and £80 respectively, given when an officer has reason to believe that someone has committed an offence.

It remains the same that a PND will not necessarily show. The the chief officer thinks that the PND is relevent to the check, then the PND will show. It is impossible to give you a definitive answer. Any information disclosed is subjected to the relevence test, which dictates that non-conviction information like PNDs must have definitive relevence, ie, not just to be thought of as 'might be relevent.

Either way, it is imporant to recognise that PNDs are not convictions. When you pay the fine there is no admission of guilt. (There is no official finding of guilt and therefore, you are innocent until proven guilty, you have no criminal record).

Even if the PND is disclosed, it does not mean you don't get the job, you will have to explain it. But if the PND was for something like canabis posession, then this is likely to severly affect your ability to work with children.
A PND won't put you on the barring list.
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sorry I forgot to put it on the question, the fine was £80 for shoplifting and so a banning from the shopping centre for 2years
shoplifting will show up on a enhancde check as it was theft.it will simply state the verdict ie caution etc etc n theft and date...... it will not say shoplifting, simply theft.......

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